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To: bedolido
Old Fogie alert! Fearing what is foreign to him.

What he saw was a group of teenagers who don't look like him behaving badly. He thinks it is that foreign music he hears that causes it.

I am no longer a fan of teenage rebellion music..... but I dug it when I was in high school..... Our rebellion music was sung by grungy lookin' white guys with long hair.... My parents and the other old folks found that threatening too.... when they could understand the words.
10 posted on 07/29/2003 8:12:05 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I disagre with you. It goes past simply a style difference. Much of rap is truly evil. For example, here is what we were listening to when I was a teen (yeah I'm pushin' 40):

Carry On Wayward Son
KANSAS

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high
Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I can hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say
Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
Masquerading as a man with a reason
My charade is the event of the season
And if I claim to be a wise man
It surely means that I don't know
On a stormy sea of moving emotion
Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean
I set a course for winds of fortune
But I hear the voices say
Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more
No!
Carry on
You will always remember
Carry on
Nothing equals the splendor
Now your life's no longer empty
Surely heaven waits for you
Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Here is what teens today are listening to:

50 Cent Lyrics: Rotten Apple

[50 Cent]
I'm on parole, I used to be on probaaaaaation
I'm with my gun I get full coporaaaaaation
I tell you "take it off" no hesitaaaaaation
Nigga you play around, I lay you down
That's how it's goin' down
Don't play wit' me, I don't have patieeeeeents
My headachin', and I need my medicaaaaaaation
Niggaz be hatin', they don't know what they faaaaaacin'
Nigga you play around, I lay you down
That's how it's goin' down
I be in court throwin' signs like I'm a maaaaaason
Nigga witness against me, I'ma eraaaaaase 'em
If they try an runaway, I'ma chaaaaaaase 'em
Now with the pound, and I'm a lay 'em down
That's how it's goin' down

[Chorus]
Better watch how you talk
Better watch where you walk
On the streets of New York
That's how we get down
22's on the jeep
Somthin' deep in the seat
When we creep wit the heat
That's how we get down

[50 Cent]
Wise men listen and laugh while fools talk
Stick up kids don't live long in New York
Fuck around and catch the wrong jukes on the street
Get caught slippin', then get hit wit' like three
In every hood in the US, I'm that nigga they feelin'
Rap full of good guys, 50 Cent is the villan
I play the bar with 8 bottles all night gettin' right
Teachin' the hoodrats what Cristal taste like
I put 60 on wrist, 12 on my fist, 100 on my neck
We in the hood nigga schemin', what you expect?
My S on 22's leave ya hos confuuuuuused
On the track ready to choose, like "Daddy we want you"
My love live ain't change, the shorties still hug me
Bullet wound in my face, and bitches still love me
Now Nelly told you how them country boys talk
I came to teach you how we put it down in New York
That's how we get down

[Chorus]
Better watch how you talk
Better watch where you walk
On the streets of New York
That's how we get down
22's on the jeep
Somthin' deep in the seat
When we creep wit the heat
That's how we get down

[50 Cent]
In the city, a young buck'll tell you how the mac spit
O.G. give 'em the word, you gonna get yo' ass hit
I don't know why niggaz like to talk bad about me
I'm the richest nigga they know without a G.E.D.
Man it could be the money, it could be the ice
It could be they'd like to be me and can't live my life
You should here they be sayin' man "50 be flippin'"
"Shot my man over 7 grams, that nigga be trippin'"
I know death is promised, I don't fear gettin' murked
It's when a nigga half-way killa ya homie, it hurts
Now we can hit the club and get it crunked
Or you could start some shit, and I could hit you with
the pump, you can have it how you want
But I know you like my style (Uh-Huh)
Ya like how I break it down, wanna get rich?
I'll show you how, take this pack, pump these pieces
That's how we get down

[Chorus]
Better watch how you talk
Better watch where you walk
On the streets of New York
That's how we get down
22's on the jeep
Somthin' deep in the seat
When we creep wit the heat
That's how we get down

14 posted on 07/29/2003 8:22:00 AM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: HairOfTheDog
What he saw was a group of teenagers who don't look like him behaving badly.

I refer you to post #11. If you're not familiar with McWhorter's writings, you should be. He's very good.

15 posted on 07/29/2003 8:22:38 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
"I am no longer a fan of teenage rebellion music..... but I dug it when I was in high school..... Our rebellion music was sung by grungy lookin' white guys with long hair.... My parents and the other old folks found that threatening too...."

I don't know what era of "rebellion" you're referring to, but I don't believe those "grungy lookin' white guys with long hair" evoked or advocated anything like killing, maiming, murdering, or raping "bitches" or "cops."

They were too stoned and mellow from weed and wine.

38 posted on 07/29/2003 9:06:59 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: HairOfTheDog
good point.
76 posted on 07/29/2003 12:28:05 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: HairOfTheDog
Old Fogie alert! Fearing what is foreign to him.

Dude, he's only 37.

90 posted on 07/29/2003 4:20:35 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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