[Ronin]

While I most sincerely wish it was the United States leading the human race into space, I am forced to fully support the Chinese effort.

Despite the fact that they are going to be doing it with purchased Russian and stolen U.S. technology, I am not only convinced there will be a Chinese presence in orbit within 3 years, there will be a permanently manned Chinese moon base within 10.

And the Chinese are not going to just collect a few rocks, plant a flag and leave. They will stay and work the place. It won't be as elegant as it would be done if we did it, but so what. They are going to have accidents and lose people, but so what?

The race will move into space. If that lights a fire under the fat bottomed asses in Washington D.C. so much the better.

[Frank_Discussion]

I agree that with you in the sentiment of getting some progress here, but I absolutely do not want the ChiComs to establish a lunar base. That's not acceptable.

But if they race for it and we feel the need to beat them in that race, and stay this time around, then that I'll get behind.