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To: mdmathis6
My friend, can you read Biblical Hebrew? If you can't, you have no right to make an opinion because you are not reading the bible... You are reading somebody's translation, based on their own theological assumptions. When I learned Hebrew and Greek and studied early Church history (at an academic institution.... not a bible college), I stopped being a Christian. Not because I think Jesus’ ideas were blasphemous. He was a great Jew. Would that all Jews were like him. I understand the Gospel of Paul, but the gospel of Jesus was much different (I'm refering to Mt. Mk, & Lk... Jn is not authentic, written at least 100 years after the death of Jesus.) I respect Christains and the idea of a mediator between God and man is beautiful (especially with a father/son metaphor), but it is false. Learn Hebrew and remember that the Pentateuch is the base of the Bible, not Paul. Baby-steps.
24 posted on 06/16/2008 8:31:28 PM PDT by markeg
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To: markeg

I agree that the Pentateuch was the basis for the Bible...Paul quoted from it often, having been grounded in it from his youth. As for translational issues, there have been quite a few translations over the years in which the central truth has been preserved. Indeed, I trust God himself to have preserved the central core of the Hebrew texts in its translations into its various languages.

God must have known that those of his would be children would never have learned Hebrew...are you saying God is not capable of preserving the truth(especially the DIRECT HEART SENSE) of the Pentateuch as it was tranlated into other languages?

Now there is the Pentateuch in the Hebrew. There is the Pentateuch as it exists in various tranlations. Then you have the interpretations of same as would be defined and prescribed by “guides” such as the Talmud. Then you have interpretations as given directly by God’s Holy Spirit.

I could learn Hebrew right now as to get a better understanding of the core scriptures; but I wonder if my core beliefs would still change as I have been taught that Jesus Christ shines through out the old and new testaments. The Hebrew language would still say in the Hebrew as the English does in the translated Torah not to murder, steal, worship false gods, commit adultery...ect. The Hebrew as in English would describe the coming “Star arising out of Jacob, the Lion of the tribe of Judah”. The Hebrew as in English would still describe the importance of Bethlehem Ephrata, it would still describe the virgin who should conceive and bear a son named Emmanuel, or God with us.

I suspect even if I had ever learned Hebrew, you and I would still be arguing over Talmudic semantics and other sorts of split hairs. You see I found that the new testament gospels are far more rooted thru the old testaments, despite the questions in some folks minds as to the Gospels’ historicity.
I have issues with the attempts made over history to “reinforce” and “fence in to guard from pagan contamination” the Hebrew torah with a system of man made interpretations and fanciful legalese such as the Talmud and Mishna. Christ railed against such a system in which the plain sense of the scriptures were lost by means of man made reinterpretations of the Mosaic code, stating that “who ever listened to the temple leaders at that time were thrice damned more than the leaders themselves as the leaders had “taken away the Keys of Knowledge”.

No,no my friend...I suspect my having a helpful knowledge of Hebrew would get us no nearer to agreement.


25 posted on 06/17/2008 12:42:35 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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