[ninenot]

I know the consequences and the line of thought.

However, the fact remains that it is damn near IMPOSSIBLE to convince the average USA-dweller that the Gummint (at any level) is going to pull off a massive gun-grab FOR THE PURPOSES of maintaining control.

Look at the pictures of GWBush. Would HE do that?

[appalachian_dweller]

>> ...IMPOSSIBLE to convince the average USA-dweller that the Gummint (at any level) is going to pull off a massive gun-grab FOR THE PURPOSES of maintaining control. <<

I have to concede that you're probably correct. If you haven't already, check out post #39 from Sender. That scenario is quite possible, considering the average USA-dweller, very possible. Trying to convince libs that guns don't increase crime is like talking to a wall. They won't be swayed by cold, hard facts so it's impossible to turn them around.

But there are a few, just a few, who will not be fooled. Maybe that'll be enough.