[garbanzo]

And again, I have to wonder about your sensibilities if you're implying that our problem today is that people just have too much of an obligation to their society and aren't paying enough attention to their own desires.

In fact much media is pretty much Victorian with a small hint of Dionysianism. It's only slightly better than the 1950s. I would suggest that your sensibilities are way too sensitive if you think that today's bland inoffensive politically-correct media represent some sort of high point of immorality.

I think some brands of social conservatives look out and see a pit of depravity, but even in comparison to recent history, say the 1970s, today's media is actually fairly tame.

[inquest]

I think some brands of social conservatives look out and see a pit of depravity, but even in comparison to recent history, say the 1970s, today's media is actually fairly tame.

This is a highly startling conclusion you've come to. Flip through the channels that are available to the average household today, and you'll come across plenty more skin being flaunted and various other types of titillation than by performing the same experiment in 1978. That I can guarantee you.

The same, by the way, goes for walking down the street and observing people.