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We Will Start Testing Nuclear Bombs, Says Defiant N Korea (Prelude To Attack?)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 7-27-2003 | Julian Coman

Posted on 07/26/2003 5:27:03 PM PDT by blam

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To: AntiGuv
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41 posted on 07/26/2003 7:51:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Runs with scissors.....)
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To: blam
Several FReepers post humor/rumor threads that Hillary might be preggers (absurd!) and there are hundreds of responses. Blam posts a thread about a highly likely nuclear war in which Hawaii might be targeted...and I think you'll be likely to see 99 posts. At least they're worth reading. I don't know much about this matter, and I need to get up to speed fast, it looks like. I really appreciate the links given above. Thanks. If anyone has any more I'd appreciate it. The main news outlets I read are not paying this matter much attention.
42 posted on 07/26/2003 7:56:43 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
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To: RightWhale
"N Kor has to test/demonstrate or no one will believe they have the bomb. If the point is deterrence, it must be seen."

Do you think they will waste one on a test?
Who will they test it on?

If they announce a test on a given date and we do not detect anything on that date, do we assume the test failed? What should we do then?

43 posted on 07/26/2003 7:56:52 PM PDT by blam
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To: dr_who_2
MacArthur wanted to take care of the problem. And for as much as I admire Ike, he didn't help things either, but he was a general from the old school of massive troup movements, amphibious assaults, etc.

Truman had the credibility of being the US president that gave the order to use the two atomic bombs in our arsenal to vaporize two Japanese cities. Had he made it clear in no uncertain terms to the Chinese that he would nuke them and that he had more than two atomic bombs this time, North Korea would not be ruled by the Chinese and that sawed-off little runt with the bad hair cut today.
44 posted on 07/26/2003 7:57:04 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: ex-Texan
I believe China enjoys seeing N. Korea as a thorn in our side.
45 posted on 07/26/2003 8:02:41 PM PDT by doc
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To: .cnI redruM
I'm sure the B117's and B2's in the area are outfitted with B83's and B61's ready to go.

http://nuketesting.enviroweb.org/hew/Usa/Weapons/Wpngall.html
46 posted on 07/26/2003 8:04:23 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22
I hope you're right, although I've also heard favorable mention of the MOAB. Without the thermonuclear glow, the Marshall Plan starts 10,000 years earlier.
47 posted on 07/26/2003 8:08:32 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: Monty22
I hope you're right, although I've also heard favorable mention of the MOAB. Without the thermonuclear glow, the Marshall Plan starts 10,000 years earlier.
48 posted on 07/26/2003 8:08:33 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: .cnI redruM
I used to think we may use SLBM D5's or ICBM's even if nk needed it. Now I think we wouldn't use those, too dangerous. The Ruskies or Chinese could, even with warning, launched a retaliation strike from their tracking systems going bonkers.

B2 or B52 ALCM is certainly the least risky in all ways. Unlikely for those to fail either.. One of the reason we have so much overkill with the SLBM/ICBM force is because a certain percentage is factored in as launch failures.
49 posted on 07/26/2003 8:18:04 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: .cnI redruM
I saw/heard General McInery(sp) on Fox News last week say that with two carriers on each side of N Korea that we could run 4,000 sorties a day over the North. I think the largest number of sorties run on Iraq in one day was 1,200.
I suppose a lot of planes would come out of SK, Japan, Guam and other places too.
50 posted on 07/26/2003 8:18:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
. . . Pyongyang may have acquired six to eight nuclear weapons by the end of the year . . .

Someone tell William Perry that Clinton is to blame for this predicament. Thanks a lot, Willie, you effing scumbag!

Nevertheless, I wish the faction within the administration that appears to be arguing that we do nothing for now would STFU! Every month we delay another city is put at risk. If we are going to blockade them, let's do it now. To hell with waiting for actionable intelligence. If we are going to go in for a surgical strike, let's do it now. We cannot afford to allow them to build a bomb every month for the next six months. Better to engage them now when they only have one or two bombs than later when they have eight.

51 posted on 07/26/2003 8:30:26 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: blam
Recent intel reveals that the North Korean missile program is frought with component failure.
Iran has had many launch failures...the engines supplied by N.K. failing
Guidance has also proved unreliable.

These tests are newly assembled missiles by Iran.
Prior to Gulf war I ..Iraq learned that they could not get the 1000kg warhead to Israel..they were forced to knock the warhead yield back to 250kg and increase fuel.
The scud still flew wildly of course..broke apart in flight..encuring various termial guidance problems.
This happened..with Russian technitions assisting.

Irans Shehab 3 is powered by the Korean Nodong Scud series knock off.
Shehab 4 is derived from the obsolete Soviet era SS-4.
Another inventory attempt is based on the RD-216 Liquid fuel rocket booster which powered the Soviet SS-5.

Irans missile program has been dismal,with many launches simply exploding in stage seperation.

Korean supplied parts are unreliable...the fueling systems are maintenence intensive...the terminal guidance unreliable aswell.

At present..Neither Iran or N.K. has anything which can lift a nuclear warhead and put it down accurately at any great distance.
1300 klms is nice numbers..but unrealistic when the weight of a nuclear warhead is matched.

The Bush Admin is on the right path though in this...its not worth the cost to China's import/export need to stall much longer to protect Chubby Boy in N.K. with a useless V2 rocket.
Iran will pack up shop too...that is if Russia cooperates...their program as useless as the N Korean.
Presently..Iran is trying to 11:59 all the missile parts they can before China caves and lets N.K. wither on the vine.
Here too is also good news for Israel..as supply parts for many of the Scud series in the mid east will dry up..the guidance systems and other electro initiating parts will simply cascade out from magnetism and decay.
Unless Syria has been able to R and D the Scud series...the entire missile theatre threat in the mideast could be on its last legs.
The United States is steering the region away from the brink..[The Gutless Democrats ...silent]...it is requireing fiscal concession...as the U.S. is in some cases rewarding certain nations to desist from their missile programs.
Damascus is rethinking its power projection.
U.S. has read them the riot act...they know Bush is serious..they alsO have a recent memory to remind them that they are just a reach away from U.S. and Israel when resolve is set in motion.

Several intel sites wispered a covert opp several years ago..while Bashar Assad was away at the Beruit summit.
A Scud C/D and VX warhead facility deep underground in the HOMS fire chain sector went up...many North Korean technitions were killed.
Syria said they had a chemical accident..
Days later..North Korea asked the U.S. to come to the bargaining table.
However..China's hands were still wrenching..as N.K. demands were unacceptable..even Colin Powel baulked.

So...Pre-emption has already occured.
The Term.."Axis of Evil" is a very lucid jolt to the machinators of N.K.,China,Iran and Syria.
Talk my seem to be a dance step on the surface to the world media...but quietly..these nations know the U.S. and Israel are not fooling around.

Hats off to Bush..."Bitch slap that Chubby Boy"..
Do it right in front of the Silk Lords in Bejing : )

52 posted on 07/26/2003 8:34:59 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: ChemistCat
"The main news outlets I read are not paying this matter much attention."

They're afraid of their good buddies the communist Chinese and they know this is serious. They would rather appease them and if they don't say anything, maybe the red chinese mad dog will just disappear. They also know that both them and the chinese can use the mad dog to influence the next election. The interesting part would be to see how the '04 rat candidates are planning to appease and use this to their advantage.

The whole thing would be ended if the Chinese told them to heal. THey won't.

53 posted on 07/26/2003 8:46:04 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Arkie2
Iraq is over? you got to be kidding me.

It only started.
54 posted on 07/26/2003 9:01:33 PM PDT by Kerishnak
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To: LibWhacker
I think, or hope, Bush will do that if the situation hasn't changed much right after the election. Right now he doesn't want to give the doves any credibility.

Gah. We're going to Liberia. Nevermind. Forget I said anything, because I'm operating under the assumption that the decisionmaking has some sense behind it....

55 posted on 07/26/2003 9:11:52 PM PDT by ChemistCat (Transformers look just as good by morning light as they did the night before.)
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To: ChemistCat
Brief summary of North Korean military capability and strategy

North Korean military ideology, policy, strategy, and tactical doctrine

A French view on the threat from North Korea

U.S. Army War College view on North Korean strategy and intentions

CNS suggestions for U.S. Policy re: North Korea

Clicking here will take you to about 50 zillion links on North Korea and all sorts of things relating to this situation

Any discussion of DPRK military capability should be tempered, as Light Speed notes above, with the knowledge that their equipment is substandard relative to that of U.S./ROK. Indeed, much of it is plain junk. So when you read something that says they have 50,000 Type II Whatchamacallit missiles, keep that in mind.

56 posted on 07/26/2003 9:26:11 PM PDT by squidly
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To: Im Your Huckleberry
Like the Rosenbergs.

I know what you're saying, though I'd pin more blame on Klaus Fuchs who actually worked at Los Alamos and got off easy. A stretch in prison in the UK, followed by defection to East Germany.

Seriously though, at this point the principles of the "atomic bomb" are common knowledge, the only issue is industrial capacity and allocation of resources.

I'd blame the 'toons before I'd blame the Rosenbergs or anyone else of that era.

57 posted on 07/26/2003 9:29:51 PM PDT by Salman
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To: blam
They should start next week.
58 posted on 07/26/2003 11:20:14 PM PDT by .cnI redruM ("If you think no one cares about you, try skipping next month's car payment" - Daily Zen)
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To: blam
Nuclear testing said to be imminent
Washington Times Excerpt:



From combined dispatches
TOKYO — North Korea is prepared to conduct a nuclear test unless the United States agrees to hold nuclear talks with the communist state, a Japanese newspaper said yesterday, quoting Japanese and North Korean sources.
Nuclear testing said to be imminent


Full article:
http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030726-104447-2557r.htm



59 posted on 07/27/2003 5:54:03 AM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: judicial meanz
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60 posted on 07/27/2003 11:40:52 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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