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To: my3centseuro
I have been lurking on this thread and am amazed at what some people and you especially claim to "know"...If I were an executive at the company where you work I would be concerned with the security of your network if someone like you made the security decisions.

Sorry, but I certainly know enough about the industry to immediately classify any links to hacker hangout "slashdot" as questionable. Members of that "community" routinely posts anti-American rhetoric as well as completely false and misleading information, ultimiately making the Linux campaign that arrises from there primarily one of disinformation.

I know who Bruce Perens is, and went ahead and read your piece, but found it to be nothing more than an attack on proprietary code based on a flaw that exists within his OSS products as well - the fact that not all vulnerabilities are reported.

Somehow though, he can't seem to come to grips that by publishing his entire source code contents make this even more likely to happen in open source products, especially when he continues on to make the unsubstantiated claim that his peer review model of volunteers can successfully scale with a growing code base that becomes widely utilized.

Please take your personal attacks back to slashdot, where you people can continue to group speak and attack and mod down those who actually know about computer security from experience in DoD environments or other large scale business enterprises, who rarely waste their time there.

145 posted on 07/26/2003 11:53:50 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I hardly ever read slashdot. I just did a quick search online for security through obscurity and that was the one that popped up first. Would you accept an article on the subject from the Gartner Group?

http://www4.gartner.com/5_about/news/sec_sample.pdf

Immediately dismissing an article from slashdot only shows your closed mindedness about anything non-MS. Why can't you just look at technology a piece at a time and recognize that some good comes from outside of Redmond as well?

I use MS products much more often than not. Their software is pretty good for most of my needs. I also recognize that there is better software out there for some tasks and use the best software for those tasks.

Microsoft also believes security through obscurity does not work. I have seen the source code for many of their security products. There has been talk about opening up portions of Windows for peer review very recently.

Try drinking something besides MS Koolaid every once in a while.

148 posted on 07/26/2003 12:27:54 PM PDT by my3centseuro
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