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Your shout : Women and men divided over images (of Uday & Qusay)
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 07/26/03 | Andrew Gimson

Posted on 07/25/2003 5:23:32 PM PDT by Pokey78

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1 posted on 07/25/2003 5:23:33 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
For the Americans to publish the pictures is appalling as well.

The Americans didn't publish them. The press did. Take it up with the media, lady.

2 posted on 07/25/2003 5:27:50 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Pokey78
"You can hardly hang the bodies from a gibbet....

Two possible responses:

1. Why not?
- or -
2. You're absolutely right. Don't hang their bodies from a gibbet - put their HEADS ON PIKES.

3 posted on 07/25/2003 5:27:53 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: headsonpikes
The honour of your presence is requested.
4 posted on 07/25/2003 5:29:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: Pokey78
"...those men were someone else's family."

To be accurate, they were Saddam's family, and guilty of crimes against humanity. This woman's compassion is misplaced.

5 posted on 07/25/2003 5:30:59 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Some muslim CAIR types are making the picture showing as bad as heads on pikes.More of "the muslims always treat the dead with respect"complaint.(yeah,right)
6 posted on 07/25/2003 5:32:10 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Pokey78
The Brits are squeamish about such things. But to call the photos "titillating" is a bit curious. Methinks Ms. Kate must get her kicks in strange ways.
7 posted on 07/25/2003 5:32:54 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MEG33
"More of "the muslims always treat the dead with respect"complaint.(yeah,right)"

They may respect the dead - but they certainly relish the act of killing. Their record goes back centuries!!

It's time that they woke up to reality. They aren't the only ones with an agenda!!

8 posted on 07/25/2003 5:37:34 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: MEG33
Some muslim CAIR types are making the picture showing as bad as heads on pikes.

If they're going to complain like we're doing it, we might as well do it.

If we handed the bodies over to the "Iraqi Ruling Council" or whatever it's called, that's what they'd probably do with them.

9 posted on 07/25/2003 5:37:52 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality.)
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To: DuncanWaring
These are the American muslims spreading the word.There are many in Iraq who would certainly drag the bodies through the street.
10 posted on 07/25/2003 5:40:43 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Pokey78
I'm usually pretty squemish, but those pictures didn't bother me at all. I just thought about Uday tossing living beings into plastic shredders and the sight of his blown apart face didn't even faze me.
11 posted on 07/25/2003 5:44:27 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: DuncanWaring
Sometimes a vivid demonstration of the New World Order is needed.

Just kidding! Sometimes a bit of rough justice goes a long way to make the necessary point.

I'm in agreement with a number of posters on these threads who have suggested immediately turning over the corpses to the new Iraqi Council - it's their monsters, after all!

Heads on pikes! Sometimes it's just a metaphor. ;^)
12 posted on 07/25/2003 5:44:45 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Pokey78
Quite a diversity of opinion about these photos. Throughout Arabia they're shocking; in Britain, they're titillating?
13 posted on 07/25/2003 5:45:09 PM PDT by cwb
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To: Pokey78
Women condemned the publication of photographs of Saddam Hussein's dead sons yesterday, while men supported it.

*snort* I'll say this for the above sentence: It's just so hilariously asinine that it coaxed me into reading the rest of the story :)

Seriously now: "women" condemned the publication of the photographs (all women, you see). And "men" supported it, all of them. Got that?

Speaking in the cafe of the Imperial War Museum in London, Kate Dodsworth said ...

Translation: Andrew Gimson was hanging out in this cafe with his laptop, realized he still had a deadline to meet, and used it as an angle to chat up Kate Dodsworth....

Then he spent about 20 minutes asking various other museum-goers for comments to complete the charade. Quotes from five men/boys and five women/girls and there's your article: "women" condemn the photos, "men" support it.

Hilarious!

14 posted on 07/25/2003 5:47:16 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Pokey78
I took a look to see if they were recognizable, decided it was a bad idea to clean them up, and went back to playing solitaire before the broadcast of the bodies ended. What's the big deal?
15 posted on 07/25/2003 5:48:45 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: LADY J
Respect ..mass graves,dragging our soldier through the street in Somalia,beheading Daniel Pearl and mutilating his body,Iran holding up a charred arm of a dead US downed "rescuer" in the Carter administration,our soldier's body mutilated in this war,a woman who waved at our soldiers killed and displayed on a lamp pole...is that respect for the dead?As far as the dead sons..my mind can't conceive of their murder,torture and depravity.
16 posted on 07/25/2003 5:50:08 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
It is ironic that the same muslim arabs that find horror in the publishing of the pictures of these dead monsters have no problem with public dismemberment, even sometimes televised, of so called criminals under provisions of Sharia Law. This includes amputation of hands and heads. So much for the muslim expressions of horror.
17 posted on 07/25/2003 5:56:58 PM PDT by brydic1
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To: brydic1
Right.
18 posted on 07/25/2003 5:58:25 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Pokey78
Tuesday night, the very day the sons were killed, ABC did an excellent hour-long special on their ghastly lives and lauded our troops.

However, two reporters over in Iraq, one in Baghdad, warned the host, Charles Gibson, that the U.S. needed to prove the deaths to the citizens as there was wide-spread suspicion or fear of accepting that Uday and Qusay were really dead.

The next day the U.S. announced they were considering releasing photos and there wasn't one voice that spoke up saying it ought not be done, except, ironically, ABC's Peter Jennings, who thought it hypocritical that we had decried our war dead being shown on tv.

It appears to me Jennings was first out of the block with the far left talking points. If we had not released photos I have no doubt in my mind that many in our own media would do their own stirring the pot of suspicion over the actual identities of the bodies. Some even ventured there at first release of the photos yesterday.

We did the right thing.
19 posted on 07/25/2003 5:58:56 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: MissAmericanPie
What's the big deal?

Some lefties are trying to use this as yet another issue to bash the administration over. That's all.

20 posted on 07/25/2003 6:01:08 PM PDT by cyncooper
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