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To: My2Cents
Since Israel has agreed to the road map, alternatives are a bit off the point, however the Elon plan is a viable alternative (and transfer isn't mandatory, it's voluntary with financial incentives, or Jordanian/palestinian citizenship if they stay), or a unilateral separation providing Israel with defensible borders and a barrier (fence?), which might be where we're heading.

The problem I see emerging is GWB divergence from his plan, and the road map.

Fences aren't a part of the plan.

Prisoner releases aren't a part of the plan.

Terror infrastructure was to be dismantled. The hudna isn't a part of the plan, nor is Israel party to it.

Arafat is running things, Mazen acknowledges that. That wasn't part of the Bush plan, though it's OK in the road map. IMO, and GWBs too, negotiating with terrorists won't work.

The PA will be an islamic state, not a democracy, it's in their constitution. That's not part of the plan.

Incitement is to stop, throughout the Arab world. It's not, and we're saying nothing.

Unfortunately, even here in it's early stages, the road map isn't being followed. Are we giving a forceful message behind the scenes, I can't know, but I don't see the results, so I presume we're conveying an image of weakness to the Arab world. That's not going to get them to give up their long term objective of destroying Israel and expelling the Jews from the middle east. Unfortunately, no one wants to confront the ugly reality of the Arab world.

Personally, if he's going down this road, I'd rather see GWB negotiate with Arafat. If this is really the "double secret plan" (give them a state, let them kill Jews, then destroy them) that some Freepers claim, then the message of his impending demise needs to be presented to Arafat clearly and directly. Maybe he'd listen.

15 posted on 07/25/2003 12:58:35 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Now that you mention it, I've heard of the Elon plan. It's intriguing, but would Jordan agree to absorb the Arabs in the West Bank (or Egypt the Arabs in Gaza, for that matter)? Personally, I think Israel should have negotiated the return of the West Bank to Jordan a long time ago. By far, I prefer this "two-state solution" -- Israel and Jordan.
17 posted on 07/25/2003 1:02:29 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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