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To: Contra238
Good. Maybe then we can stop being beholden to a foreign country.

To whom exactly are we beholden?

Maybe then we can have peace with at least some of the Arabs.

Are you validating the notion that our support for Israel is a viable reason for Arabs to hate and wage war against Americans?

I am all for the Road map. Israel has no right to take the WB and Gaza for their own--they already took more than the original UN partition alloted them.

Why did they take Gaza and the West Bank in the first place? Did they take it from the "Palestinians"? NO! They took Gaza from Egypt (who had snatched it earlier) because Egypt attacked them.

They took the West Bank from Jordan after once again being attacked. Jordan occupied it during the Israeli War of Independence in 1948, and made it officially theirs in 1950 against the wishes of the rest of the Arab League, and for the next 2 decades they didn't even THINK about giving it to the "Palestinians"...so when Israel captured it in the 6 Day War, suddenly everyone said "Hey, you stole that land from the 'Palestinians'! Give it back!"

Yeah sure.

And about that "original UN partition plan"...who accepted it, and who rejected it? Israel accepted, the Arabs did NOT. Instead they declared war. Why should Israel be obligated to an agreement that the other party never had any intention of keeping?

And what about the original British mandate? That gave the "Palestinians" a huge homeland that exists today - it's called Jordan. Why is it that the British mandate, which gave Transjordan its independence and established an independent Palestinian-Arab only one year earlier, is completely discounted, while the swiss-cheese UN plan is valid? The British did have sovereignty over the whole region, did they not?

But no matter. Like I said, the Arabs rejected the UN plan outright and then attacked, so it's a moot point.

10 posted on 07/24/2003 8:17:26 AM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
Don't expect Contra to address any of your factual points. 2 to 1 says he goes for a red herring, instead.
29 posted on 07/24/2003 9:50:47 AM PDT by adam_az (This space for rent.)
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