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Bush Road Map Plan Calls For Creating Palestinian Arab State By December 2003, Not In 2005
ZOA ^ | July 21, 2003

Posted on 07/24/2003 7:37:59 AM PDT by yonif

NEW YORK - Contrary to media reports that the Bush Road Map proposes to create a Palestinian Arab state in the year 2005, the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) points out that the plan, in fact, calls for establishing such a state within five months, by the end of this year.

"Phase II" of the Road Map plan, which is defined as ending in December 2003, includes "creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders". Those "provisional" borders are to become "final, permanent" borders in Phase III of the plan, which is defined as ending in 2005.

ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said: "Many media reports have erroneously stated that the Bush plan is to create a Palestinian Arab state in 2005. This has lulled some people into a false sense of security, thinking that there will be two more years in which Palestinian Arab actions can be assessed before the final step of statehood is taken. In fact, the Bush plan is to create a state by the end of this year-- long before it will be possible to determine if the Palestinian Arabs are sincerely fighting terrorism and ready to live in peace with Israel. We urge the Bush administration, the Israeli government, and the Quartet to postpone any decision regarding Palestinian Arab statehood until at least 2005 so there will be time to see if the Palestinian Arabs have really given up terrorism."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; plostate; ploterror; roadmap; suicide; terrorregime; waronterrorism
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1 posted on 07/24/2003 7:38:01 AM PDT by yonif
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
Road Map Countdown: Five Months to a PA State
2 posted on 07/24/2003 7:39:23 AM PDT by yonif
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To: Contra238
Who gives a flip about the UN??? Hopefully, G. Bush will be an utter and complete failure with this roadmap to disaster...
4 posted on 07/24/2003 7:49:14 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool
Why would you say something like that? If they try to implement this road map, we should all hope that it's a great success and brings peace to the region. I don't think it will, but statements like yours just bring to light a very disturbing attitude held here on FreeRepublic
5 posted on 07/24/2003 7:58:33 AM PDT by Norse
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To: Contra238
Amen Contra, both sides are to blame, including Israel.
6 posted on 07/24/2003 7:59:32 AM PDT by Norse
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To: Contra238
why would they want an American diplomatic effort to fail to bring peace?

Because this "effort" is just a retread of all previous efforts to bring peace WHICH HAVE ALL FAILED.

Speaking of retreads, what was the last screen name you used here before you got banned?

9 posted on 07/24/2003 8:12:33 AM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should have to live next door to a pimp, so he can have somebody to look up to.)
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To: Contra238
Good. Maybe then we can stop being beholden to a foreign country.

To whom exactly are we beholden?

Maybe then we can have peace with at least some of the Arabs.

Are you validating the notion that our support for Israel is a viable reason for Arabs to hate and wage war against Americans?

I am all for the Road map. Israel has no right to take the WB and Gaza for their own--they already took more than the original UN partition alloted them.

Why did they take Gaza and the West Bank in the first place? Did they take it from the "Palestinians"? NO! They took Gaza from Egypt (who had snatched it earlier) because Egypt attacked them.

They took the West Bank from Jordan after once again being attacked. Jordan occupied it during the Israeli War of Independence in 1948, and made it officially theirs in 1950 against the wishes of the rest of the Arab League, and for the next 2 decades they didn't even THINK about giving it to the "Palestinians"...so when Israel captured it in the 6 Day War, suddenly everyone said "Hey, you stole that land from the 'Palestinians'! Give it back!"

Yeah sure.

And about that "original UN partition plan"...who accepted it, and who rejected it? Israel accepted, the Arabs did NOT. Instead they declared war. Why should Israel be obligated to an agreement that the other party never had any intention of keeping?

And what about the original British mandate? That gave the "Palestinians" a huge homeland that exists today - it's called Jordan. Why is it that the British mandate, which gave Transjordan its independence and established an independent Palestinian-Arab only one year earlier, is completely discounted, while the swiss-cheese UN plan is valid? The British did have sovereignty over the whole region, did they not?

But no matter. Like I said, the Arabs rejected the UN plan outright and then attacked, so it's a moot point.

10 posted on 07/24/2003 8:17:26 AM PDT by agrace
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To: yonif
"Phase II" of the Road Map plan, which is defined as ending in December 2003, includes "creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders".

Speaking of President Bush and re-elections, keep an eye on muslim terror supporter issa and CA. He's running on the Republican ticket.

11 posted on 07/24/2003 8:20:56 AM PDT by Binyamin
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To: Contra238
you're right, contra. some people are indeed more loyal to Israel than America
12 posted on 07/24/2003 8:39:16 AM PDT by Norse
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To: Binyamin
What makes you say he's a muslim terror supporter?
13 posted on 07/24/2003 8:41:31 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: The Westerner
He's been widely quoted in the Arab press praising Hizbollah and the work they do, Syria, and Arafat as ..."a charismatic individual, despite being a very small man and very old. He gives you food off his plate if you sit next to him."

He denied the quotes on returning to the US.

Darrell Issa: Traitor, or useful idiot?

15 posted on 07/24/2003 9:02:37 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson; Cachelot; dennisw
Do you smell a skunk hiding in the kudzu?
16 posted on 07/24/2003 9:04:46 AM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should have to live next door to a pimp, so he can have somebody to look up to.)
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To: Contra238
There will be no peace until both sides back off, and that includes dismantling illegal settlements.

1 Thessalonians, 5:3
For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

17 posted on 07/24/2003 9:11:01 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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To: Alouette
Please don't just denounce this poster. I know there are a lot of retreads that show up on the Isreal threads, but this poster may not be one of them based on his/her comments. JMHO.

I'm asking you to educate this poster as you and so many posters here at FR have educated me.

I see many twisted facts in his/her posts and would like to refute them myself, but I am a terrible debator and not very good with supporting documentation as you are.

Even if this is a retread, many others may be lurking as I have these past couple of years and would be rewarded with actual facts and substance.

Thanks for listening.
18 posted on 07/24/2003 9:17:42 AM PDT by swany
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To: Alouette
Couple of em. They're on the move.


19 posted on 07/24/2003 9:17:57 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Contra238
1.Israel--we do pay them over 3$ Billion a year in TAXPAYER Money, plus load them down with whatever weapons they want. Of course we do, that’s what they buy the weapons with. I’m sure you object to the billions in arms we supply Egypt, Saudi Arabia and the PA with too, just forgot to mention it, didn’t ya.

2. No. But our support for Israel will not win us any Arab friends.

Naah, the Arabs love us. Those were Israelis who flew into the towers, weren’t they? No, I know, Osama was really mad about Israel, he just forgot to say it till after the attack.

3. Egypt did not attack Israel in 1967. Israel attacked Egypt on June 5, 1967 and launched a strike against their airfields.

A state of war existed when Egypt blockaded Israel’s shipping. Israel was simply a few weeks late in defending herself. If you’re upset about that, you must be furious with GWB over Iraq, by comparison Iraq was no threat at all. I’m sure I’ve seen you post that in a foreign life.

4. Jordan had a mutual defense treaty with Egypt.

Yup. And Germany had a defense treaty with Japan, that makes them good guys? Since you’re so concerned about treaties, you know if the US, England, and France broke the blockade, as they promised when inducing Israel to give back the Sinai the first time, maybe the war wouldn’t have happened! I doubt it though, the Arabs wanted blood.

5. The British had Transjordan--Palestine and Jordan. Neither the British nor the Jordanians acted towards the Palestinian population in the harsh manner that the Israelis do.

Israel gave full citizenship to the Arabs who stayed, as well as those in UNWRA camps in Israel, who were resettled in Israel five decades ago. Jordan, like Syria and Lebanon keeps the refugees in camps, as political pawns, and denies them citizenship, and, like Syria, has murdered them by the thousand when they act up. Right, they’re not harsh. That’s why the Palestinians all want to live in Jordan, not Israel.

6. The British turned over the territory to the UN because of Jewish Terrorism, from such men as Begin and Yitzhak Shamir.

Right, the Brits endorsed the concept of a Jewish homeland in 1917 because they could foresee a Jewish terrorist state.

You’re not even a good spewer of propaganda, losing the touch I guess, but welcome back.

20 posted on 07/24/2003 9:31:38 AM PDT by SJackson
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