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Bush Road Map Plan Calls For Creating Palestinian Arab State By December 2003, Not In 2005
ZOA ^ | July 21, 2003

Posted on 07/24/2003 7:37:59 AM PDT by yonif

NEW YORK - Contrary to media reports that the Bush Road Map proposes to create a Palestinian Arab state in the year 2005, the Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) points out that the plan, in fact, calls for establishing such a state within five months, by the end of this year.

"Phase II" of the Road Map plan, which is defined as ending in December 2003, includes "creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders". Those "provisional" borders are to become "final, permanent" borders in Phase III of the plan, which is defined as ending in 2005.

ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said: "Many media reports have erroneously stated that the Bush plan is to create a Palestinian Arab state in 2005. This has lulled some people into a false sense of security, thinking that there will be two more years in which Palestinian Arab actions can be assessed before the final step of statehood is taken. In fact, the Bush plan is to create a state by the end of this year-- long before it will be possible to determine if the Palestinian Arabs are sincerely fighting terrorism and ready to live in peace with Israel. We urge the Bush administration, the Israeli government, and the Quartet to postpone any decision regarding Palestinian Arab statehood until at least 2005 so there will be time to see if the Palestinian Arabs have really given up terrorism."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: israel; plostate; ploterror; roadmap; suicide; terrorregime; waronterrorism
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To: Courier; Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; dennisw; Simcha7; yonif
"Phase II" of the Road Map plan, which is defined as ending in December 2003, includes "creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders".

Looks like an abomination of desolation, just in time for Chanukah.

Phase II: Transition -- June 2003-December 2003

In the second phase, efforts are focused on the option of creating an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders and attributes of sovereignty, based on the new constitution, as a way station to a permanent status settlement. As has been noted, this goal can be achieved when the Palestinian people have a leadership acting decisively against terror, willing and able to build a practicing democracy based on tolerance and liberty. With such a leadership, reformed civil institutions and security structures, the Palestinians will have the active support of the Quartet and the broader international community in establishing an independent, viable, state.

Progress into Phase II will be based upon the consensus judgment of the Quartet of whether conditions are appropriate to proceed, taking into account performance of both parties. Furthering and sustaining efforts to normalize Palestinian lives and build Palestinian institutions, Phase II starts after Palestinian elections and ends with possible creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders in 2003. Its primary goals are continued comprehensive security performance and effective security cooperation, continued normalization of Palestinian life and institution-building, further building on and sustaining of the goals outlined in Phase I, ratification of a democratic Palestinian constitution, formal establishment of office of prime minister, consolidation of political reform, and the creation of a Palestinian state with provisional borders.

+International Conference: Convened by the Quartet, in consultation with the parties, immediately after the successful conclusion of Palestinian elections, to support Palestinian economic recovery and launch a process, leading to establishment of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders.

-Such a meeting would be inclusive, based on the goal of a comprehensive Middle East peace (including between Israel and Syria, and Israel and Lebanon), and based on the principles described in the preamble to this document.

-Arab states restore pre-intifada links to Israel (trade offices, etc.).

-Revival of multilateral engagement on issues including regional water resources, environment, economic development, refugees, and arms control issues.

+New constitution for democratic, independent Palestinian state is finalized and approved by appropriate Palestinian institutions. Further elections, if required, should follow approval of the new constitution.

+Empowered reform cabinet with office of prime minister formally established, consistent with draft constitution.

+Continued comprehensive security performance, including effective security cooperation on the bases laid out in Phase I.

+Creation of an independent Palestinian state with provisional borders through a process of Israeli-Palestinian engagement, launched by the international conference. As part of this process, implementation of prior agreements, to enhance maximum territorial contiguity, including further action on settlements in conjunction with establishment of a Palestinian state with provisional borders.

+Enhanced international role in monitoring transition, with the active, sustained, and operational support of the Quartet.

+Quartet members promote international recognition of Palestinian state, including possible UN membership.

Full official text - Roadmap

101 posted on 07/24/2003 11:23:22 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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To: swany
Selected Jordanian policies, in the context of the Camp David proposal that some of the refugees living in camps in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon be resettled in those countries. Their position, even at that lated date, is that the refugees must be resettled in Israel proper. Note Jordan won’t resettle them, but they want compensation too.

Jordan Times Thursday, January 11, 2001

US President Bill Clinton has proposed to the Palestinians and Israelis a bundle of proposals which includes shared sovereignty over East Jerusalem, the refusal of the return of millions of Palestinian refugees to their homeland and the rehabilitation of these refugees in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and other countries….

“The memo stressed that Jordan will reject any solution that will not take into consideration its national rights, and the rights of the refugees,”….

Hiyari said Jordan considers Palestinians who fled here in 1948, as a result of the Arab-Israeli war, as Jordanian citizens “with full rights”…

“The premier told us that Jordan is against settling Palestinian refugees in Jordan and insists on their right to return [to British-mandate Palestine] and their right to compensation,” Deputy Salameh Hiyari said. ….

Officials say the government will insist on the return of displaced Palestinians — those who left their homes in the West Bank after the Kingdom lost the area to Israel in the 1967 war. ….

The premier also emphasised Jordan's right to be compensated for the “hardships and difficulties” it suffered as a result of hosting refugees. ….

102 posted on 07/24/2003 11:27:22 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Alouette
Wow, impressive harvest pic!
103 posted on 07/24/2003 11:27:51 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Looks like two hit and run posters got offed
104 posted on 07/24/2003 11:30:25 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: Alouette
Dang it! I hate it when that happens.

My observation about Clinton_was_impeached earlier post (which I can't reference now!) was he is for the roadmap if it will bring peace but understood once there is a Palestinian State and they screw up again, Israel would be justified in taking it out!

But he was so busy being defensive about his loyalties he barely got out that he was Pro-Israel and probably didn't absorb the debate. He just couldn't get his head around the fact that the Palestinians could only blame themselves.

I think he could have come around or at least left here with more to ponder.

105 posted on 07/24/2003 11:30:28 AM PDT by swany
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To: swany
I don't think so, read Msg #90
106 posted on 07/24/2003 11:32:52 AM PDT by adam_az (This space for rent.)
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To: Alouette
Hey some graphic. What's the religious explanation of what's going on?"Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee. " "There's a lot of seed multiplying goin on out thar"
108 posted on 07/24/2003 11:37:14 AM PDT by ex-snook (American jobs need BALANCED TRADE. We buy from you, you buy from us.)
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To: adam_az
It doesn't tell me much. At the time I thought you might have "guessed" he was a returned banned poster. Did you know for sure?

Please understand, I get it that responding to trolls becomes tedious and frustrating. Lately, so many threads are stopped cold, just as a good debate starts, and I'm not sure they are all trolls. Looks like maybe I am just being naive.

Anyway, I have enjoyed the information on this one. Thanks all!
109 posted on 07/24/2003 11:41:52 AM PDT by swany
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To: swany
Anyway, I have enjoyed the information on this one. Thanks all!

Me too! From your profile -

I'm just here to learn. Maybe someday I'll be smart enough to teach.

You did just that on this thread.

110 posted on 07/24/2003 11:50:41 AM PDT by agrace
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To: agrace
Thanks for your kind words.

But, boy, do I have a long ways to go!
111 posted on 07/24/2003 11:56:32 AM PDT by swany
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To: Yehuda
Do you think it would make a good fund-raising graphic for FR?
112 posted on 07/24/2003 12:00:51 PM PDT by Alouette (Every politician should live next door to a pimp, so he can have someone to look up to.)
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To: yonif; Alouette
Middle East Peace...

...'how to'...

2 Samuel 8

1 After this it came to pass that David attacked the Philistines and subdued them. And David took Metheg Ammah from the hand of the Philistines.
2Then he defeated Moab. Forcing them down to the ground, he measured them off with a line. With two lines he measured off those to be put to death, and with one full line those to be kept alive. So the Moabites became David's servants, and brought tribute.
3David also defeated Hadadezer the son of Rehob, king of Zobah, as he went to recover his territory at the River Euphrates. 4David took from him one thousand chariots, seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand foot soldiers. Also David hamstrung all the chariot horses, except that he spared enough of them for one hundred chariots.
5When the Syrians of Damascus came to help Hadadezer king of Zobah, David killed twenty-two thousand of the Syrians. 6Then David put garrisons in Syria of Damascus; and the Syrians became David's servants, and brought tribute. So the LORD preserved David wherever he went. 7And David took the shields of gold that had belonged to the servants of Hadadezer, and brought them to Jerusalem. 8Also from Betah and from Berothai, cities of Hadadezer, King David took a large amount of bronze.
9When Toi king of Hamath heard that David had defeated all the army of Hadadezer, 10then Toi sent Joram his son to King David, to greet him and bless him, because he had fought against Hadadezer and defeated him (for Hadadezer had been at war with Toi); and Joram brought with him articles of silver, articles of gold, and articles of bronze. 11King David also dedicated these to the LORD, along with the silver and gold that he had dedicated from all the nations which he had subdued-- 12from Syria, from Moab, from the people of Ammon, from the Philistines, from Amalek, and from the spoil of Hadadezer the son of Rehob, king of Zobah.
13And David made himself a name when he returned from killing eighteen thousand Syrians in the Valley of Salt. 14He also put garrisons in Edom; throughout all Edom he put garrisons, and all the Edomites became David's servants. And the LORD preserved David wherever he went.


David's Administration
15 So David reigned over all Israel; and David administered judgment and justice to all his people. 16Joab the son of Zeruiah was over the army; Jehoshaphat the son of Ahilud was recorder; 17Zadok the son of Ahitub and Ahimelech the son of Abiathar were the priests; Seraiah was the scribe; 18Benaiah the son of Jehoiada was over both the Cherethites and the Pelethites; and David's sons were chief ministers.

It has been done, It will be done...

113 posted on 07/24/2003 6:20:34 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Free Your Mind...5:15 DEBARIM)
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To: yonif
When the borders are completed, and the state is a reality, then the terrorism that will continue is a clear act of war.

Instead of "occupied peoples" they are then just enemies of war.

My guess is that the first terrorist act against the nation of Israel by the Islamic Nation of Palestine will happen within 72 hours.

I bet there has not been 24 hours without a terrorist attack in the last three years, all the while various politicians have announced one peace victory after another.
114 posted on 07/25/2003 7:18:06 AM PDT by American in Israel (Right beats wrong.)
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To: Norse
...both sides are to blame, including Israel.

And women who are raped are half at fault right?

115 posted on 07/25/2003 7:20:08 AM PDT by American in Israel
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To: Norse
count me in.
116 posted on 07/25/2003 12:05:32 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: adam_az
zot
117 posted on 07/25/2003 12:06:18 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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