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To: billbears
Hamilton never argued for a BIG government centralized or no. He did want a government capable of national defense and national development. You can not point to one word of a Hamilton argument for a monarch. Discussions reported second hand, and out of context at the Constitutional Convention don't count. Show me where Hamilton argued for a monarch.

Jefferson's states were far more repressive than the Federal government ever has been. They controlled people to such an extent that they were forced to join Slave patrols or pay a fine. J. wanted states to leave the petty tyrants of the Slaverocracy alone.

Democrats opposed Hamilton's ideals in 1790 and still do to this day.

Care to point out what revisionism was in the book. Of course, having an inability to accept historical fact handicaps you but go ahead.
9 posted on 07/23/2003 10:28:00 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Hamilton never argued for a BIG government centralized or no.

Oh, of course not. I know all the Founding Fathers were just jim dandy with having any form of monarch, elected or not

Hamilton's use of the dreaded "M" word set alarm bells ringing to the exclusion of everything else he said concerning the subject. From Madison's notes: "It will be objected probably, that [an Executive for life] will be an elective Monarch, and will give birth to the tumults which characterize that form of Gov[ernmen]t. He w[oul]d reply that Monarch is an indefinite term. It marks not either the degree or duration of power. If the Executive Magistrate wd. be a monarch for life--the other prop[ose]d by the Report . . . wd. be a Monarch for seven years."

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The following day Hamilton was taken to task for his remarks on state sovereignty, which some construed as a call for the abolition of states. Hamilton responded that he had been misunderstood, and explained that he did not advocate a complete abolition of the states, only a diminution of their status as political entities to ensure the preponderance of the federal government.

Nope, no big strong government there < /sarcasm>

Alexander Hamilton bio

21 posted on 07/23/2003 11:33:05 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You can not point to one word of a Hamilton argument for a monarch.

Perhaps not a hereditary monarchy, but he did propose presidency for life, although some argue that it was a strawman.

67 posted on 07/23/2003 4:27:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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