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To: IncPen
Considering the bag of lunatics that comprise your average middle eastern country, the material alone is reason enough to snuff the regime.

But they haven't found any material yet either except for some bags of beans...

If nothing else, we've cleaned up some slop, knocked a few rogues back on their heels and made 'the street' think twice before messing with us.

Wow, you know I'm absolutely sure that's not what the intent was originally of the Armed Forces. Forget defense, just go out and get some respect?

Unless someone has some compelling reason why Saddam should still be in power (aside from, let's say, his internal reign of terror) I'm still hard-pressed to find the downside.

Mind you, I'm glad in a way Hussein is gone as well, however it's quite evident what the downside is. Or are brave men and women of the Armed Forces after the end of the war being murdered in Iraq for a reason?

Let the handwringers wring their hands. I think we did the world a service, and ourselves too. How often does that happen?

Exactly how did we 'do ourselves' a service? If the WMDs aren't there, all that happened was the subjugation of a third world nation. And all the while Saudi Arabia, our 'ally', continues its support of Hamas and North Korea builds more bombs. Of course N Korea is probably the only nation with a worse human rights campaign and they have WMDs.

56 posted on 07/23/2003 2:30:44 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
But they haven't found any material yet either except for some bags of beans...

Senator Warner, among others, begs to differ. Patience.

Wow, you know I'm absolutely sure that's not what the intent was originally of the Armed Forces. Forget defense, just go out and get some respect?

The concept of 'getting respect' was laid out clearly in the Bush Doctrine. If you didn't like September 11th, the Doctrine is the remedy. Unless you have a better idea.

Mind you, I'm glad in a way Hussein is gone as well, however it's quite evident what the downside is. Or are brave men and women of the Armed Forces after the end of the war being murdered in Iraq for a reason?

Yes. Freedom is not free. That the thugs are willing to try a war of attrition is a surprise to noone, except those who ignore both sides of history. Doing the right thing is not easy, and it's infinitely more important to do the right thing when it's not easy.

Exactly how did we 'do ourselves' a service?

I don't know about you, but I'm less worried about an Iraqi-funded attack on the US than I was, say 6 moths ago. And I'm sure that the families of the homicide bombers in Israel are discomfited having to look elsewhere for the $15,000 checks that Saddam was sending each of them. How's that for a start?

If the WMDs aren't there, all that happened was the subjugation of a third world nation.

A third world nation with all the potential in the world (oil) bottled up in one person's maniacal psychosis. And I'm not talking about Iraqi oil for us, I'm talking about Iraqi oil for Iraq. Is Saddam's not truer subjugation than what we have wrought?

And all the while Saudi Arabia, our 'ally', continues its support of Hamas

We'll see about that...

and North Korea builds more bombs. Of course N Korea is probably the only nation with a worse human rights campaign and they have WMDs.

North Korea announced their nuclear program after our buildup against Saddam was under way. North Korea can be brought to heel by China via our economic vise. China needs our business, not the other way around. It is appealing but simple-minded to compare Iraq and NK; they're completely different situations.

57 posted on 07/23/2003 2:52:29 PM PDT by IncPen
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