[Rome2000]

In 1783 they used horse and buggies and the most dangerous weapon in the world was a cannon.

WMD are real and all prudent measures to guard American citizens must be taken.

Ashcroft said it's clear that public safety officers want to stop terrorists.

"Our business is to secure liberty," he added. "We don't invade or undermine it."

[Oztrich Boy]

And England was facing a regime just as brutal and militarily far more formidable than Saddam's

[Oztrich Boy]

"Our business is to secure liberty," [Ashcroft] added

I wmnder what he meant by that

If you tell the Navy to secure a building, they will lock all the doors, turn off the lights, and leave.

If you tell the Army to secure a building, they will set up barricades and not allow anyone in or out of the building.

If you tell the Air Force to secure a building, they will sign a three year lease with an option to buy.

But, if you tell the Marines to secure a building, they will go in with a full tactical assault team, kill everyone inside and disperse defensive fire at anyone who approaches.

[ellery]

If your argument is that we should modify the fourth amendment, there is a Constitutional process to do so. If Congress can just go willy-nilly abrogating the bill of rights without following that process, then our Constitution is merely a worthless piece of paper. And citing the many abuses that have happened up until now does not make the argument that we should blindly accept additional abuses.

[jmc813]

and the most dangerous weapon in the world was a cannon.

For what it's worth, many people use that same argument to justify the Assault Weapons Ban.

[dirtboy]

WMD are real and all prudent measures to guard American citizens must be taken.

Well, we should all just allow the cops to search our homes whenever they want, without a warrant. And pull us over for no reason and search our cars. And have everyone submit fingerprints and DNA for a national database. And carry national ID cards. And heck, have tracking implants that indentify who the good citizens are. Can't be too prudent, now, no matter what that moldy old Bill of Rights says.