Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Simon- Sec. of State has validated 900k+ Signatures, Recall a go (Dump Davis)
Hugh Hewitt Show ^ | 7/22/3

Posted on 07/22/2003 5:13:13 PM PDT by socal_parrot

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161 next last
To: Southack
They sure as heck didn't call Arnooold!
21 posted on 07/22/2003 5:28:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Davis and then recall the rest of the Demon Rats!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: socal_parrot
Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante claims that under the state constitution he automatically becomes governor the moment Davis is recalled. If he pushes that claim I suspect the Calif Supremes will decide it, and most are Repubs if I remember correctly, owing to Davis' Repub predecessors.
22 posted on 07/22/2003 5:29:35 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Look it up!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CyberAnt
Placer County

Simon: 61.1%
Davis: 29.7%

I think that 31.4% beats 11%, what do you think?
23 posted on 07/22/2003 5:32:14 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Bill Simon's recall campaign slogan- "If I can't have it, no one can!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: RonDog
Thanks for the story.

On another note, Cruz Bustamante is now saying he was mistaken about succeeding Davis as Gov. if the recall is successful. He now says he'll declare himself EMPEROR!

24 posted on 07/22/2003 5:32:14 PM PDT by socal_parrot (Tip your server...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: RonDog
It's a fabulous day for Republicans! Tata to Saddam's two miscreants and now it's sayanora doofus.
25 posted on 07/22/2003 5:33:59 PM PDT by onyx (Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: socal_parrot
It is not yet clear to me that what Bill Simon reported has been confrimed.
The Associated Press story that I posted does NOT say what Simon said, despite the encouraging title.

26 posted on 07/22/2003 5:35:01 PM PDT by RonDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: CyberAnt
If a republican only wins by 11% in San Diego, then we're toast!
27 posted on 07/22/2003 5:36:04 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
Simon was doublecrossed by Gerald Parsky and his Country Clubbers, undermined by Karl Rove, demonized by the liberal press, and accused of corruption in a ridiculous lawsuit kept alive by a corrupt judge. Yet he still came close to beating Davis. He would have beat him if the press had been remotely honest or if Parsky had followed through on his pledge to be a good fundraiser for the party.
28 posted on 07/22/2003 5:40:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: socal_parrot
If Davis doesn't resign tonight, Bustamentalcase doesn't get the governor's chair beyond the election, even if Davis resigns after the announcement from the SOS.

The most beautiful thing about this is that Davis is Constitutionally required to call the election for his own removal.
29 posted on 07/22/2003 5:40:57 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: socal_parrot; DoughtyOne; Saundra Duffy; Sabertooth; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; jwalsh07
The Hispanic Caucus in the California Legislature, according to Assemblyman John Campbell, had proposed tax increases of 20 billion dollars, which represents a 30% increase in taxes (higher property taxes, a new gross receipts tax on business, higher sin taxes, and of course higher income taxes). The public employee unions are going full blast to pursue their own initiative dumping the two thirds vote requirement in the legislature to get a budget and tax increases passsed in California. That initiative will be voted on when the Dem primary occurs next March, and the vote rolls are swelled with Dems.

Just a thought as to why it might be a good idea to have a GOP governor with a veto pen. Things could go bad, very bad, in this state, fast, very fast.

Of course, the GOP drones ala Simon, Issa will all be running, giving perhaps the inside lane to a Dem.

Be very afraid.

30 posted on 07/22/2003 5:41:10 PM PDT by Torie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yooper
For every minute he's in office two new California conservatives are created. I say we take a lesson from the democrats who were caught unaware on live radio feed and let Davis remain in place. Sure, it will harm the California constituancy, but we'll gain in the end.

It doesn't work that way. People leave to get jobs and don't come back unless it changes.

31 posted on 07/22/2003 5:42:20 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Torie
Be very afraid.

WOW! Vermont beckons. It suits you.

32 posted on 07/22/2003 5:42:57 PM PDT by jwalsh07
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Cicero
Blaming this on Parsky is yet another indication of Bill Simon's inability to succeed and willingness to put the blame anywhere but where it belonged- on himself.
33 posted on 07/22/2003 5:43:49 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (Bill Simon's recall campaign slogan- "If I can't have it, no one can!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
Failed to settle a lawsuit against his company for fraud when running.

So, of course, any DemonRAT wanting to take out an opponent has but to file a lawsuit, or pay someone to file a lawsuit, within a few weeks of the election. This way, there is not enough time for the opposing candidate to settle the suit, but plenty of time for the news media to pick it up and run front page headlines. By the time the suit is dismissed (as the suit against Simon was), the DemonRAT has won the election.

Fiendishly clever.

34 posted on 07/22/2003 5:49:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (W in '04)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
Now, now, try being a bit fair here. Was it Simon's incompetence that made him such an overwhelming winner in the state GOP primary, hmmm?

Methinks your ax needs a bit of sharpening on both sides, friend. ;-)

35 posted on 07/22/2003 5:51:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...&&&&&&&&&... SuPPort FRee Republic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: yooper
So...conservatives are good for nothing? Totally unable to debate and win on any issue?

They're only viable when the alternative is a socialistic tyrant?

You guys are in deeper sh*T than you think you're in if this is a prevalent attitude.
36 posted on 07/22/2003 5:54:34 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: RonDog
good luck, Californians. .... Now if only we in AZ could dump Butch.
37 posted on 07/22/2003 5:55:56 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge
Here is a little MORE COMPLETE information, from the Associated Press:
California governor says he does not fear recall election

ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer
Tuesday, July 22, 2003

(07-22) 17:34 PDT LOS ANGELES (AP) --

As the recall drive against Democratic Gov. Gray Davis steamed toward the ballot Tuesday, Davis predicted he would defeat it and potential opponents readied for a campaign that could begin within days.

"If the people want me to present my credentials again, I do not fear them," Davis said during an appearance at an East Los Angeles health clinic.

"I expect the governor to be recalled by a substantial margin. The only thing that's in doubt is who will replace him," said Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Vista, the only declared major-party candidate for Davis' job.

Elections officials in California's 58 counties have until 5 p.m. Wednesday to finish counting 1.6 million signatures and verifying them through a random sampling process. Proponents need 897,158 valid signatures to get the measure on the ballot.

If counties report more than 110 percent of the needed valid signatures, Secretary of State Kevin Shelley will certify that the recall has qualified. He could make the announcement as early as Wednesday.

Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante would then schedule an election within 60 to 80 days. He said Tuesday he would announce the election date the morning after the recall is certified. Counties have discussed Sept. 30 and Oct. 7 as possible dates.

Candidates would have to file campaign papers at least 59 days before the election, meaning they would have little time no matter which date is selected.

"We expect any campaign to be prepared for any eventuality," said Chris Wysocki, spokesman for Rescue California Recall Gray Davis, the main recall committee. "We've communicated with all of the possible campaigns that we're aware of that we could be on a very short timeframe and they need to get their ducks in a row."

Aside from Issa, potential Republican candidates include businessman Bill Simon, who lost to Davis in November, and actor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Schwarzenegger returned Tuesday from promoting "Terminator 3" in Europe and his political adviser said he expects him to run.

Simon has been readying a campaign team and talking to donors. He discussed his potential candidacy on talk radio Tuesday and planned a political speech Thursday.

"When we get an election called in the next few days he'll be prepared to act," said Sal Russo, Simon's chief adviser during his campaign last year.

Issa had collected thousands of dollars in contributions by Tuesday on a campaign Web site he had launched the day before, Issa spokesman Jonathan Wilcox said.

Nearly 400,000 valid signatures had been turned in by Tuesday afternoon, secretary of state officials said, and some of the larger counties did not plan to report until Wednesday.

As Davis confronted the probability of becoming the first California governor ever to face a recall election, he and legislators in Sacramento continued to wrestle to solve a $38.2 billion budget shortfall.

"This election is not about changing governors, it's about changing direction, and I am confident the voters of this state will not opt for a right-wing agenda over a progressive agenda," Davis said.

Without mentioning him by name the governor also attacked Issa, who funded the recall drive.

"I don't think any person's personal agenda ought to be the reason to put this state through the wringer," he said, referring to the projected $30 million to $35 million cost of an election.

"I provided the fuel but this recall was clearly of Gray's making," Issa countered in a telephone interview. "He created the deficit problem and the driving out of California's business, he lied about it in the last election and he has no plan to fix it. That's the reason that the voters have lost faith in Gray Davis."

Davis supporters were still pursuing a court challenge to stop Shelley from certifying the recall until a hearing on their allegations that signatures were gathered illegally. But no action was taken on an appeal they filed Monday.

A recall ballot would have two parts: Voters would vote yes or no on recalling Davis, and would then choose from a list of candidates to replace him.


38 posted on 07/22/2003 5:56:00 PM PDT by RonDog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: TheAngryClam
Half the things you mention do seem to be mistakes (though not exactly the egregious errors you make them out to be - "failure to spend as much money as he said he would"? the horror!), which if committed by some other candidate in a state with a reasonably fair media would be no big deal. (Yes Simon accused Davis of hi-jinx, but Davis did the exact same to Simon! And guess which was reported with more indignation.)

The other half are things which are ultimately beyond his control or due to a biased media. Did he really "fail to push" the power crisis or did the media just not pay attention to his "pushing", or even try to defuse it and rush to Gray's defense? If half of Californians are so partisan Dem that they're gonna pull the lever for Gray no matter what, then what good is "pushing the power crisis"?

I guess I just have a hard time blaming Simon for the fact that a large proportion of Californians are knee-jerk partisan Democrats. That's not his fault. He didn't win because a large number of voters don't want a Republican governor under any circumstances. If that makes him a "bad candidate" then the only "good" Republican governor candidates in California will have to be Democrats. Maybe Jerry Brown could run? :-)

39 posted on 07/22/2003 5:56:43 PM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: BibChr; Impeach98
Worse still, isn't he using the same advisor that helped him lose the last race?

No. Ed Rollins and Rob Lapsley don't work for him. I don't believe he is using a consultant yet, but he should go get the one that caused him to come from nowhere (4%) to beat Riordan in the primary last year.

40 posted on 07/22/2003 5:59:43 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 161 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson