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Mom says killed son mistaken for Lynch in Iraq (Sgt. Walters was the true hero)
The Herald-Dispatch ^ | Saturday, July 12, 2003 | BOB WITHERS

Posted on 07/22/2003 4:06:57 PM PDT by Destro

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:36:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Destro
What is her glory! She did nothing glorious!

Pardon my French, but how the hell do you know?

41 posted on 07/22/2003 4:50:51 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Destro
Agree with you, Destro. Jessica doesn't remember what happened. Doesn't someone have to be able to tell what happened before we can start passing out medals? If someone else was a witness, why aren't we hearing what happened?

Delighted that she was rescued but don't think medals should be given out just because she survived.
42 posted on 07/22/2003 4:50:52 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: rwfromkansas
And what pray tell was Lynch's honorific?
43 posted on 07/22/2003 4:50:52 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Agree with you, Destro. Jessica doesn't remember what happened. Doesn't someone have to be able to tell what happened before we can start passing out medals? If someone else was a witness, why aren't we hearing what happened?

Delighted that she was rescued but don't think medals should be given out just because she survived.
44 posted on 07/22/2003 4:50:55 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: the outsider
Give the "shiny white" crap a rest, please.
45 posted on 07/22/2003 4:51:10 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: My2Cents
The Pentagon report is available for all to read.
46 posted on 07/22/2003 4:53:07 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
I'm sorry your service has not been properly rewarded.I'd right the wrong if I could.I'm sure we all wish things had been more fair for you.
47 posted on 07/22/2003 4:53:53 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Destro
Do you see now why such things matter, Prodigal Son???

What are you so outraged about? Joesnuffy's got these medals, he said it's not that big a deal and he values a couple of his other medals much more. Is your fight over this worth denigrating a POW's service on her day of celebration?

48 posted on 07/22/2003 4:56:29 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Destro
Pound sand if you don't give a crap about Lynch's bravery.

She is a soldier.
49 posted on 07/22/2003 4:57:22 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ( "There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C. Spurgeon)
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To: MEG33
The reason I am animated is because of the incident above, where the parents of hero Walters are called "dispicable" by poster because they dare challenge the sacred cow of the Lynch myth with the truth.
50 posted on 07/22/2003 4:58:23 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
The misogynist attitudes of most people on this thread is clear for all who read, too.
51 posted on 07/22/2003 4:58:38 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: Destro
Do you see now why such things matter, Prodigal Son???

I take it the extra two question marks mean you really want to know?

I had a fellow in my platoon who was awarded the Bronze Star in Desert Storm with V device for valor. And a purple heart. You know what he did? He was driving an M106A2 Mortar Carrier that was fired on by a BMP. A piece of shrapnel nicked his heel. He doesn't even have a scar. Did he ever shoot at the enemy in that engagement? No. He drove the track to a standstill without flipping it and leapt out to help establish a perimeter.

When you got your Bronze Star, what did you have to do?

52 posted on 07/22/2003 4:59:00 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: #3Fan
My #50 explains my outrage.
53 posted on 07/22/2003 4:59:17 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Let's Roll
Doesn't someone have to be able to tell what happened before we can start passing out medals? If someone else was a witness, why aren't we hearing what happened?

Can you cite me the regulation that says "Before any award can be given, Destro needs to be informed"? It's necessary for you to know the exact details of why a soldier is given any award short of the CMH. The Army decided to award this soldier her medal. It's their decision and theirs alone.

54 posted on 07/22/2003 5:02:11 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: rwfromkansas
What did the parents say?
55 posted on 07/22/2003 5:02:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Destro
Sgt. Walters is indeed another hero. All in that company were dealt the opportunity for valor that was put before them. All were awarded. It tastes rotten to have to slam Lynch to raise up another. It is petty and mean and despicable.
56 posted on 07/22/2003 5:03:23 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Destro
My #50 explains my outrage.

No, you were outraged before that post. This has been your subject of the whole day.

I think we all can agree that reformkansas post was uncalled for, hopefully he posted it without thinking. I don't blame Walters' parents for seeking recognition for their son's actions.

57 posted on 07/22/2003 5:03:43 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Destro
I think some of the wrath directed toward the parents is due to your addition to the title: "Sgt. Walters was the true hero". I don't think you should've said that, not in the title, It makes it look like the parents said that and they didn't.
58 posted on 07/22/2003 5:07:20 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: Prodigal Son
Not pretending to be an expert on military medals but I do recall that my husband's and brothers' were accompanied with a written description of the action or activity for which the award was given.

What is the description accompanying Jessica Lynch's award?
59 posted on 07/22/2003 5:07:22 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Destro
Hey check this out- Lynch isn't the first Lynch to receive the Bronze Star in Iraq (read carefully what he got it for):

Local man awarded Bronze Star

By Charlie Russo Staff Writer

Not much grows in the deserts of the Middle East. But because of the planning of Army Lt. Col. Michael R. Lynch, which began in Kuwait in November 2001, bases sprang up to support American troops during Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom.

For his efforts, the Andover native was awarded the Bronze Star medal for "exceptionally meritorious achievement" in Iraq on May 2. He returned home to Naperville, Ill. yesterday.

"It's an individual award but it's a group effort. There will be others recognized," Lynch, 42, said in an interview yesterday. "Everybody contributed to make sure the maneuver forces could do their jobs. We worked hard, but the grunts had to do the fighting."

As an engineering officer charged with operations planning, Lynch literally helped lay the groundwork for the U.S. military successes in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bronze Star medals can only be awarded in wartime.

"Lt. Col. Lynch displayed outstanding operational planning skill, leadership, and extraordinary dedication that resulted in major contributions and successes ... during Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom," wrote Col. Gerald W. Fontenot in a letter nominating Lynch for the medal.

"There was a small group that went in November 2001," Lynch said. "We went in with a small group that did all the planning that enabled the operation to go smoothly, in terms of engineering. My focus was on engineering."

In simple terms, Lynch said, Army engineers fall into two categories: construction engineers and destruction engineers. Lynch said he is more a construction engineer.

"My job is typically to ensure maneuver forces are well supported," he said. "We designed and built the facilities for people to sleep, eat, go to the bathroom, park a bunch of helicopters. That's what we support, we build things. We have to spring a lot of things out of the desert for rapid growth."

Lynch, a 1979 graduate of Andover High School who will celebrate 20 years of service in the Army later this month, was also involved in the capture and control of the Tallil Airbase near Nasiriyah, Iraq, Fontenot wrote.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt authorized the Bronze Star on Feb. 4, 1944, retroactive to Dec. 6, 1941. President Kennedy then modified the requirements to include service with friendly forces in August 1962.

The Bronze Star medal can be awarded to any member of the armed forces. Recipients must distinguish themselves by heroic or meritorious achievement or service while engaged in an action against an enemy of the United States, not involving aerial flight.

The Bronze Star ranks 15th in order of precedence on a list of 31 U.S. military decorations, according to the Army. Since World War II, 1,176,241 Bronze Star medals have been awarded. In Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, 1,224 Bronze Star medals were awarded. Updated totals for Operation Iraqi Freedom have not been calculated.

"You just do your job and when your commander recognizes what you've done, they have certain abilities to award at various levels," Lynch said. But for Lynch, when he received the award from Maj. Gen. Robert L. Heine, his mind was on other things.

"At that moment it was, 'Hey it's almost over for me,'" Lynch said. "It was in recognition that I was at the end of my tour. It was his way of expressing his thanks."

"We're very proud of him," said Lynch's mother, Jean, who now lives with her husband, Joseph Sr., in Hampton, N.H. "Michael is a quiet man and he doesn't blow his own horn. I was surprised he even told me. He does not talk about his work. It is quite an honor. We didn't realize how important a job he had."

"There will probably be a lot of these awarded, when there are that many soldiers there," Lynch said. "It's just a matter of time before they come out. I'm just one of the earlier guys to come out."

Andover director of Veteran Services John Doherty, a Vietnam veteran, said he would like to recognize Lynch on Memorial Day -- ideally in person.

"Any medal is significant because it shows a job well done," Doherty said. "This one was done under tough circumstances. The citation shows he is obviously an excellent planner and logistician."

Lynch, his wife, Peggy, and sons, Hayden and Tristan, could soon move closer to home. His next command posting will be at the Reserve Forces Training Center at Fort Devens in Ayer.

60 posted on 07/22/2003 5:09:27 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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