Bush has OKd UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION

How do you know this???? Where is your source? Without a credible source, this is nothing more than reactionary hysteria.

If proven true, however, I will be just a wee bit hysterical as well.

A source for this "unlimited immigration" claim is....?

Oh - I barely noticed the panicked tone in this! < /sarcasm >

How do you know this???? Where is your source?

It says right on the post that the source is J. Zane Walley of The Paragon Foundation.

Oh - I barely noticed the panicked tone in this! < /sarcasm >

I did notice the obvious and staged panicked overtone though. :^)

And how does this person know this allegation to be true? Funny how no other media outlets have reported this.

Source, please.

"this is an e-mail i received from J Zane Walley @ The Paragon Foundation"

Maybe you should check it out a little more before posting. This kind of email alert is likely to be misleading or simply incorrect. Google is your friend.

Unlimited?...... now can you give us the legislation that's being considered.... Bill #, status, etc? How about 1400 annually under provisions? Is that unliminted?

H.R.2738

United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act (Introduced in House)

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TITLE IV--TEMPORARY ENTRY OF BUSINESS PERSONS.

SEC. 401. NONIMMIGRANT TRADERS AND INVESTORS.

Upon a basis of reciprocity secured by the Agreement, an alien who is a national of Chile (and any spouse or child (as defined in section 101(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(b)(1)) of such alien, if accompanying or following to join the alien) may, if otherwise eligible for a visa and if otherwise admissible into the United States under the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 et seq.), be considered to be classifiable as a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(E) of such Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(E)) if entering solely for a purpose specified in clause (i) or (ii) of such section 101(a)(15)(E). For purposes of this section, the term `national' has the meaning given such term in article 14.9 of the Agreement.

SEC. 402. NONIMMIGRANT PROFESSIONALS; LABOR ATTESTATIONS.

(a) NONIMMIGRANT PROFESSIONALS-

(1) DEFINITIONS- Section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b)) is amended by striking `212(n)(1), or (c)' and inserting `212(n)(1), or (b1) who is entitled to enter the United States under and in pursuance of the provisions of an agreement listed in section 214(g)(8)(A), who is engaged in a specialty occupation described in section 214(i)(3), and with respect to whom the Secretary of Labor determines and certifies to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State that the intending employer has filed with the Secretary of Labor an attestation under section 212(t)(1), or (c)'.

(2) ADMISSION OF NONIMMIGRANTS- Section 214 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1184) is amended--

(A) in subsection (i)--

(i) in paragraph (1), by striking `For purposes' and inserting `Except as provided in paragraph (3), for purposes'; and

(ii) by adding at the end the following:

`(3) For purposes of section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1), the term `specialty occupation' means an occupation that requires--

`(A) theoretical and practical application of a body of specialized knowledge; and

`(B) attainment of a bachelor's or higher degree in the specific specialty (or its equivalent) as a minimum for entry into the occupation in the United States.'; and

(B) in subsection (g), by adding at the end the following:

`(8)(A) The agreement referred to in section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) is the United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement.

`(B)(i) The Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish annual numerical limitations on approvals of initial applications by aliens for admission under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1).

`(ii) The annual numerical limitations described in clause (i) shall not exceed 1,400 for nationals of Chile for any fiscal year. For purposes of this clause, the term `national' has the meaning given such term in article 14.9 of the United States-Chile Free Trade Agreement.

`(iii) The annual numerical limitations described in clause (i) shall only apply to principal aliens and not to the spouses or children of such aliens.

`(iv) The annual numerical limitation described in paragraph (1)(A) is reduced by the amount of the annual numerical limitations established under clause (i). However, if a numerical limitation established under clause (i) has not been exhausted at the end of a given fiscal year, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall adjust upwards the numerical limitation in paragraph (1)(A) for that fiscal year by the amount remaining in the numerical limitation under clause (i). Visas under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b) may be issued pursuant to such adjustment within the first 45 days of the next fiscal year to aliens who had applied for such visas during the fiscal year for which the adjustment was made.

`(C) The period of authorized admission as a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) shall be 1 year, and may be extended, but only in 1-year increments. After every second extension, the next following extension shall not be granted unless the Secretary of Labor had determined and certified to the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State that the intending employer has filed with the Secretary of Labor an attestation under section 212(t)(1) for the purpose of permitting the nonimmigrant to obtain such extension.

`(D) The numerical limitation described in paragraph (1)(A) for a fiscal year shall be reduced by one for each alien granted an extension under subparagraph (C) during such year who has obtained 5 or more consecutive prior extensions.'.

(b) LABOR ATTESTATIONS- Section 212 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182) is amended--

(1) by redesignating the subsection (p) added by section 1505(f) of Public Law 106-386 (114 Stat. 1526) as subsection (s); and

(2) by adding at the end the following:

`(t)(1) No alien may be admitted or provided status as a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) in an occupational classification unless the employer has filed with the Secretary of Labor an attestation stating the following:

`(A) The employer--

`(i) is offering and will offer during the period of authorized employment to aliens admitted or provided status under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) wages that are at least--

`(I) the actual wage level paid by the employer to all other individuals with similar experience and qualifications for the specific employment in question; or

`(II) the prevailing wage level for the occupational classification in the area of employment,

whichever is greater, based on the best information available as of the time of filing the attestation; and

`(ii) will provide working conditions for such a nonimmigrant that will not adversely affect the working conditions of workers similarly employed.

`(B) There is not a strike or lockout in the course of a labor dispute in the occupational classification at the place of employment.

`(C) The employer, at the time of filing the attestation--

`(i) has provided notice of the filing under this paragraph to the bargaining representative (if any) of the employer's employees in the occupational classification and area for which aliens are sought; or

`(ii) if there is no such bargaining representative, has provided notice of filing in the occupational classification through such methods as physical posting in conspicuous locations at the place of employment or electronic notification to employees in the occupational classification for which nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) are sought.

`(D) A specification of the number of workers sought, the occupational classification in which the workers will be employed, and wage rate and conditions under which they will be employed.

`(2)(A) The employer shall make available for public examination, within one working day after the date on which an attestation under this subsection is filed, at the employer's principal place of business or worksite, a copy of each such attestation (and such accompanying documents as are necessary).

`(B)(i) The Secretary of Labor shall compile, on a current basis, a list (by employer and by occupational classification) of the attestations filed under this subsection. Such list shall include, with respect to each attestation, the wage rate, number of aliens sought, period of intended employment, and date of need.

`(ii) The Secretary of Labor shall make such list available for public examination in Washington, D.C.

`(C) The Secretary of Labor shall review an attestation filed under this subsection only for completeness and obvious inaccuracies. Unless the Secretary of Labor finds that an attestation is incomplete or obviously inaccurate, the Secretary of Labor shall provide the certification described in section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) within 7 days of the date of the filing of the attestation.

`(3)(A) The Secretary of Labor shall establish a process for the receipt, investigation, and disposition of complaints respecting the failure of an employer to meet a condition specified in an attestation submitted under this subsection or misrepresentation by the employer of material facts in such an attestation. Complaints may be filed by any aggrieved person or organization (including bargaining representatives). No investigation or hearing shall be conducted on a complaint concerning such a failure or misrepresentation unless the complaint was filed not later than 12 months after the date of the failure or misrepresentation, respectively. The Secretary of Labor shall conduct an investigation under this paragraph if there is reasonable cause to believe that such a failure or misrepresentation has occurred.

`(B) Under the process described in subparagraph (A), the Secretary of Labor shall provide, within 30 days after the date a complaint is filed, for a determination as to whether or not a reasonable basis exists to make a finding described in subparagraph (C). If the Secretary of Labor determines that such a reasonable basis exists, the Secretary of Labor shall provide for notice of such determination to the interested parties and an opportunity for a hearing on the complaint, in accordance with section 556 of title 5, United States Code, within 60 days after the date of the determination. If such a hearing is requested, the Secretary of Labor shall make a finding concerning the matter by not later than 60 days after the date of the hearing. In the case of similar complaints respecting the same applicant, the Secretary of Labor may consolidate the hearings under this subparagraph on such complaints.

`(C)(i) If the Secretary of Labor finds, after notice and opportunity for a hearing, a failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1)(B), a substantial failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1)(C) or (1)(D), or a misrepresentation of material fact in an attestation--

`(I) the Secretary of Labor shall notify the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security of such finding and may, in addition, impose such other administrative remedies (including civil monetary penalties in an amount not to exceed $1,000 per violation) as the Secretary of Labor determines to be appropriate; and

`(II) the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as appropriate, shall not approve petitions or applications filed with respect to that employer under section 204, 214(c), or 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) during a period of at least 1 year for aliens to be employed by the employer.

`(ii) If the Secretary of Labor finds, after notice and opportunity for a hearing, a willful failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1), a willful misrepresentation of material fact in an attestation, or a violation of clause (iv)--

`(I) the Secretary of Labor shall notify the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security of such finding and may, in addition, impose such other administrative remedies (including civil monetary penalties in an amount not to exceed $5,000 per violation) as the Secretary of Labor determines to be appropriate; and

`(II) the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as appropriate, shall not approve petitions or applications filed with respect to that employer under section 204, 214(c), or 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) during a period of at least 2 years for aliens to be employed by the employer.

`(iii) If the Secretary of Labor finds, after notice and opportunity for a hearing, a willful failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1) or a willful misrepresentation of material fact in an attestation, in the course of which failure or misrepresentation the employer displaced a United States worker employed by the employer within the period beginning 90 days before and ending 90 days after the date of filing of any visa petition or application supported by the attestation--

`(I) the Secretary of Labor shall notify the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security of such finding and may, in addition, impose such other administrative remedies (including civil monetary penalties in an amount not to exceed $35,000 per violation) as the Secretary of Labor determines to be appropriate; and

`(II) the Secretary of State or the Secretary of Homeland Security, as appropriate, shall not approve petitions or applications filed with respect to that employer under section 204, 214(c), or 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) during a period of at least 3 years for aliens to be employed by the employer.

`(iv) It is a violation of this clause for an employer who has filed an attestation under this subsection to intimidate, threaten, restrain, coerce, blacklist, discharge, or in any other manner discriminate against an employee (which term, for purposes of this clause, includes a former employee and an applicant for employment) because the employee has disclosed information to the employer, or to any other person, that the employee reasonably believes evidences a violation of this subsection, or any rule or regulation pertaining to this subsection, or because the employee cooperates or seeks to cooperate in an investigation or other proceeding concerning the employer's compliance with the requirements of this subsection or any rule or regulation pertaining to this subsection.

`(v) The Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall devise a process under which a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) who files a complaint regarding a violation of clause (iv) and is otherwise eligible to remain and work in the United States may be allowed to seek other appropriate employment in the United States for a period not to exceed the maximum period of stay authorized for such nonimmigrant classification.

`(vi)(I) It is a violation of this clause for an employer who has filed an attestation under this subsection to require a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) to pay a penalty for ceasing employment with the employer prior to a date agreed to by the nonimmigrant and the employer. The Secretary of Labor shall determine whether a required payment is a penalty (and not liquidated damages) pursuant to relevant State law.

`(II) If the Secretary of Labor finds, after notice and opportunity for a hearing, that an employer has committed a violation of this clause, the Secretary of Labor may impose a civil monetary penalty of $1,000 for each such violation and issue an administrative order requiring the return to the nonimmigrant of any amount paid in violation of this clause, or, if the nonimmigrant cannot be located, requiring payment of any such amount to the general fund of the Treasury.

`(vii)(I) It is a failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1)(A) for an employer who has filed an attestation under this subsection and who places a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) designated as a full-time employee in the attestation, after the nonimmigrant has entered into employment with the employer, in nonproductive status due to a decision by the employer (based on factors such as lack of work), or due to the nonimmigrant's lack of a permit or license, to fail to pay the nonimmigrant full-time wages in accordance with paragraph (1)(A) for all such nonproductive time.

`(II) It is a failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1)(A) for an employer who has filed an attestation under this subsection and who places a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) designated as a part-time employee in the attestation, after the nonimmigrant has entered into employment with the employer, in nonproductive status under circumstances described in subclause (I), to fail to pay such a nonimmigrant for such hours as are designated on the attestation consistent with the rate of pay identified on the attestation.

`(III) In the case of a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) who has not yet entered into employment with an employer who has had approved an attestation under this subsection with respect to the nonimmigrant, the provisions of subclauses (I) and (II) shall apply to the employer beginning 30 days after the date the nonimmigrant first is admitted into the United States, or 60 days after the date the nonimmigrant becomes eligible to work for the employer in the case of a nonimmigrant who is present in the United States on the date of the approval of the attestation filed with the Secretary of Labor.

`(IV) This clause does not apply to a failure to pay wages to a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) for nonproductive time due to non-work-related factors, such as the voluntary request of the nonimmigrant for an absence or circumstances rendering the nonimmigrant unable to work.

`(V) This clause shall not be construed as prohibiting an employer that is a school or other educational institution from applying to a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) an established salary practice of the employer, under which the employer pays to nonimmigrants under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1) and United States workers in the same occupational classification an annual salary in disbursements over fewer than 12 months, if--

`(aa) the nonimmigrant agrees to the compressed annual salary payments prior to the commencement of the employment; and

`(bb) the application of the salary practice to the nonimmigrant does not otherwise cause the nonimmigrant to violate any condition of the nonimmigrant's authorization under this Act to remain in the United States.

`(VI) This clause shall not be construed as superseding clause (viii).

`(viii) It is a failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1)(A) for an employer who has filed an attestation under this subsection to fail to offer to a nonimmigrant under section 101(a)(15)(H)(i)(b1), during the nonimmigrant's period of authorized employment, benefits and eligibility for benefits (including the opportunity to participate in health, life, disability, and other insurance plans; the opportunity to participate in retirement and savings plans; and cash bonuses and non-cash compensation, such as stock options (whether or not based on performance)) on the same basis, and in accordance with the same criteria, as the employer offers to United States workers.

`(D) If the Secretary of Labor finds, after notice and opportunity for a hearing, that an employer has not paid wages at the wage level specified in the attestation and required under paragraph (1), the Secretary of Labor shall order the employer to provide for payment of such amounts of back pay as may be required to comply with the requirements of paragraph (1), whether or not a penalty under subparagraph (C) has been imposed.

`(E) The Secretary of Labor may, on a case-by-case basis, subject an employer to random investigations for a period of up to 5 years, beginning on the date on which the employer is found by the Secretary of Labor to have committed a willful failure to meet a condition of paragraph (1) or to have made a willful misrepresentation of material fact in an attestation. The authority of the Secretary of Labor under this subparagraph shall not be construed to be subject to, or limited by, the requirements of subparagraph (A).

HR2738 - Chile and Singapore
HR2739 - Free-Trade

sorry i forgot to post the hr numbers

This can't possibly be true. This is like surrendering our country to a foreign power.

This is your "Two-Party Cartel". Put some ice on it. (or you could vote this cartel out of office). Remember if you do as you always do, you will get what you always got.

`(ii) The annual numerical limitations described in clause (i) shall not exceed 1,400 for nationals of Chile for any fiscal year.

1400 is a very low limit for unlimited immigration.

Indian and Chinese IT workers better be worried because Chileans may take their H1-B jobs.

"This can't possibly be true. This is like surrendering our country to a foreign power."

It's not. Read on down the thread. It sets limits on immigration for workers from these countries...quite low ones, as well.

It's the usual jingoistic panic attack whenever any immigration is mentioned...never mind that everyone protesting has ancestors who immigrated.

Bush has OKd UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION

In other news Bat Boy got married today.

you got that right Digger. Time for all to wake and realize If you DO vote you DO NOT have a right to bitch, Let's review,, the difference between dems & reps is,,, um,,, ah,,, I better go Google ;)

Jay Walley is pretty reliable (I've met with him on several occasions). He writes regularly for Range Magazine working as a property rights advocate and has reported on on the infiltration of Arab nationals across our southern border for WorldNet Daily.

So, Jay does have a stake in his credibility. Whether or not he is right in this instance I cannot say.

my take is that Bush is trying to bankrupt california.....and its working.lol

Chile, Singapore Pacts Advance in U.S. Congress
Thu July 17, 2003 06:11 PM ET
By Doug Palmer
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A pair of new U.S. free trade agreements with Chile and Singapore advanced with strong bipartisan support in Congress on Thursday, despite provisions on immigrant workers that prompted several senators to ask the Bush administration to pull the pacts.

The House of Representatives Ways and Means Committee voted 32-5 to approve the Singapore agreement and 33-5 to approve the Chile pact. The action sends both agreements to the House floor for an expected vote next week.

Chile's ambassador to the United States Andres Bianchi expressed surprise at the lopsided margin. "I thought it was going to be a tighter vote. It is very positive and I think it augurs well for what may happen next week," he said.

The Senate Finance Committee and Senate Judiciary Committee also approved the pacts, sending them to the Senate floor.

The agreements are the first the Bush administration has negotiated under a trade promotion authority law passed last year. That legislation allows the White House to strike trade deals that Congress can approve or reject but not change.

The Senate Judiciary Committee voted 11-4 in favor of the pacts. But several senators strongly objected to a provision providing visas for business professionals, up to 5,400 from Singapore and 1,400 from Chile, to enter the United States each year. They urged the White House to renegotiate the pacts and drop the visa provision.

At time when the U.S. unemployment rate is at 6.4 percent and many unemployed technology workers are complaining of visa program abuses, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat warned of the consequences of the more liberal immigration provisions.

Meanwhile, top Democrats on the House Ways and Means Committee said they were satisfied with recent changes made to implementing legislation to address concerns about the visa program. But they told the administration not to include similar measures in future trade pacts.

A total of nine Democrats on the Ways and Means panel voted for the Singapore agreement and ten for the Chile pact. However, they warned that environmental and labor provisions of the two agreements should not be used as a model for a proposed trade pact with Central American countries.

http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=3112066