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Doctors Opt for Fee-Tied Practice<br> Purpose is to give patients more time
July 21, 2003 | Carrie Levine

Posted on 07/22/2003 3:40:26 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG

Recently Dr. Nick Fitterman gave a patient a 25-minute physical after she had waited 45 minutes to see him. This was unusual, he said, in that many of the 3,800 patients he treats only see him when they are sick.

Fitterman is sick of that.

So he has made what he says was a difficult choice: to cut his Huntington practice back to 600 patients, and charge them each a $1,500 annual fee to continue using his services as of September. Routine doctors' visits and services will continue to be covered by insurance payments, but the extra payment allows the doctor to schedule more visits with fewer patients and to concentrate on preventive care and wellness.

Critics say the fees will create a new tier in the health care system, one that is accessible only to the well off, and leave even insured patients unable to find medical care they can afford.

Fitterman says the new practice model, known as boutique or concierge medicine, will let him pay more attention to patients and preventive care than he can now, when he feels pressured by low insurance company payments to see thousands of patients.

"This is the most difficult decision I have ever made," Fitterman said. "A half-dozen times a day, I think, am I doing the right thing? But patients are frustrated. I think (the medical profession) is compromising our quality of care."

But Fitterman's decision to restructure his practice along a model provided by MDVIP, a Florida-based medical management firm, will leave more than 3,000 of his patients searching for a new doctor. Another Long Island general practitioner, Dr. Steven Goldfarb of Southampton, also has signed on with MDVIP, and some of his patients say they are disturbed that their health insurance is no longer enough.

"On principle I think it's wrong. We have medical insurance, we have our co-pay," said Laurie Lenz, a Southampton resident who said she is having a hard time finding a new doctor who will take her Oxford health insurance. "When you become a doctor, you take an oath, and part of that is dealing with insurance," she said.

But the Hippocratic Oath doesn't mention managed care. Arthur Caplan, chairman of the department of medical ethics at the University of Pennsylvania, said he thinks boutique medicine is a symptom of a larger problem with the health care system.

"I don't blame doctors who say, 'I want to have the ability to spend time with patients,' but how did we get to a position where that isn't what everyone gets?" he asked. According to Caplan, patients who pay fees for access to their doctors "are buying their way into coach."

Fitterman and Goldfarb said their patients will receive additional services in exchange for the annual fee. All patients will be entitled to annual checkups and wellness care, such as extra visits for nutritional counseling, that many insurance plans won't routinely cover, they said.

Larry Akey, a spokesman for the Health Insurance Association of America, said boutique care serves a section of the market, but it remains to be seen whether it will become a major trend. He acknowledged that managed care plans remain affordable by limiting some health care choices for both doctors and patients.

"Doctors are not forced to join managed care plans," he said. "If the fees are inadequate, they can simply choose not to participate in a plan."Both Goldfarb and Fitterman stressed that they are asking other doctors to take the patients who do not sign on to their new practices. New ethical guidelines issued in June by the American Medical Association, require doctors switching to boutique practices to do this. The guidelines say that if no other physicians can care for patients who cannot pay the retainer, the doctor may ethically have to continue caring for them. Both Fitterman and Goldfarb say they will continue to see patients with no other options.

"Out in this area, no one takes Medicaid, so I have decided that I will continue to take all my Medicaid patients," Goldfarb said. "There are also patients at the Shinnecock nation here who have been with me for a long time, and I can't abandon someone who doesn't have an option for someone else. We've made accommodations for them."

But the two doctors say they know they will lose some long-time patients. Karen Larson's family has gone to Fitterman for five years, and she paid his fees herself when he stopped taking her insurance plan. But $4,500 annually to cover herself, her daughter and her husband is simply too much money, she said.

"I think he's excellent, but for one visit a year, I think it's extravagant," she said. "We're going to find someone else." Still, Larson added, she would prefer to stay with Fitterman, but cannot justify the cost while her family remains healthy. "Who knows?" said Larson, a nurse from East Northport. "Maybe someday down the line, if something happens."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: doctors; feebased; insurance
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This is my wife's doctor. I was curious what others felt about this development in the medical community.
1 posted on 07/22/2003 3:40:27 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
It's interesting.

The use of the insurance "system" to pay for low-cost, primary care visits has doomed primary care, at least as delivered by physicians.

I assume that there will be some free market attempts to revive it before Hillary's final victory.

The 1993 comprehensive healthcare proposal made this illegal (five years in jail for the MD), and since the government will never be able to compete with this type of service, I assume it will eventually be banned (except for Members of Congress).

2 posted on 07/22/2003 3:51:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The "proof will be in the pudding", as they say.

If people truly get better care for their $$$, and this doctor is that much better than some other doctor on the plan, then it MAY be worth it.

But practically, how much extra time is this guy really going to spend with someone for their $1500 annual fee. One hour (maybe), two hours ( doubt it), calculate the cost of those extra couple hours and it doesn't look like such a deal to me.

3 posted on 07/22/2003 4:08:20 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
$1500.00 times 600 patients equals $900,000.00 per year, and that's just for starters. The good doctor would also be receiving fees over and above that amount.

There are many and very complicated reasons for the astonomical rise in health care costs in recent years. Not all of them are as easy to discern as this particular example.

A family of five would be paying $600.00 (plus) a month to have the privilige of going in once a month (perhaps even twice if they would be happy with 10 - 15 minute appointments) and having their health insurance pay for the office call. Who couldn't afford that?
4 posted on 07/22/2003 4:13:27 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: dawn53
...calculate the cost of those extra couple hours and it doesn't look like such a deal to me.

It doesn't to me either, hence we are probably changing physicians. The only wrinkle is that my wife has had some serious health issues this past year and it makes it a rotten time for her to be switching to a new doctor.

5 posted on 07/22/2003 4:14:59 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: dawn53
But practically, how much extra time is this guy really going to spend with someone for their $1500 annual fee

Presumably, demand may bring this figure down (or boost it), depending on the realities patients face. On the surface, I think the idea is ok. Personally, I don't think I could receive much value for that kind of outlay, but maybe someone with persistent health problems would pay for the focused attention.

I've said this before: the best health care reform would include options for the elimination of insurance payments for routine care. People love paying $10 bucks for their annual checkup, but it's not a very efficient way to keep overall insurance prices down. If the patient bears a larger burden for routine care, premiums may decrease and coverages may expand for more serious conditions and procedures. I know nobody wants to implement a disincentive for people to seek medical attention, but right now a doctor's visit is virtually free for millions of people. I think that should change.

6 posted on 07/22/2003 4:19:20 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I'd switch doctors. He's making it too clear he's just in it for the money. I know my doctors aren't getting rich off me or my family because I rarely use them ----not for years at a time but doctors are supposed to hope some of their patients are healthy.
7 posted on 07/22/2003 4:21:53 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The only wrinkle is that my wife has had some serious health issues this past year and it makes it a rotten time for her to be switching to a new doctor.

I've got a chronic health condition too, and have had to switch GP's (actually I see an Internist). I stay with the same specialist, in my case, a neurologist.

Switching GP's or internists doesn't bother me too much. Find a specialist that deals with her problem and stick with him/her. As far as switching, just get a copy of all her records and have them sent to the new doc and the specialist you choose.

I'm really much more pleased with the care I'm receiving at my new internist. Sometimes I think doctors that you've seen for years may get too comfortable with the patient and overlook issues (just MHO).

A new GP or Interist has to "start from scratch" so to speak, aided by the previous doctor's notes. When my husband switched to our new doc, he got more help in his first appointment for a health problem he's been dealing with for quite a few years, than he's gotten in the past 5 years with our previous doc. So changing isn't always bad.

8 posted on 07/22/2003 4:34:44 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Folks need to learn the economics of running a medical practice. It's not just seeing a patient, charging X amount, and getting paid X amount. Not by a million years.

I could cut my fees in half, go to a cash-only system, and inrease my earnings. 'course, I'd have to have patients who understood that, just as I am not entitled to my groceries, but must earn the money and pay what they're worth, people must pay for the medical care they demand.
9 posted on 07/22/2003 4:52:41 AM PDT by Glock22
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To: Glock22
people must pay for the medical care they demand.

Revolutionary thought. And it will get you lynched in the public square. Pipe down. Any injection of reality to the health care debate is frowned upon.

10 posted on 07/22/2003 4:58:04 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: dawn53
It could become worth it pretty quickly, after a proper physical turns up a serious condition early enough to treat it successfully, where a managed care quickie would have missed it. A few years ago, I had a quickie physical by a harried Park Avenue doctor -- I was convinced I could have been on my death bed and she wouldn't have noticed.
11 posted on 07/22/2003 5:01:20 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
My doctor did exactly this. When he told me his plans a year ago, my first thought was to leave. But he was the best doctor I had ever had. So I decided to give it a try, and I’m glad I did.

It works like this: I can see him as many times as I want for whatever I have. Every visit is included. If he sees me in the hospital, it’s all covered by his fee.

I still have insurance for hospital costs, surgery, specialists he may refer me to, etc. But his costs are all covered.

My shoulder is sore and I have been thinking of going to see him. Now the only reason not to is the time it takes to get to his office. Usually no waiting.

Before the change, he was getting reimbursed at the same rate as a plumber for seeing patients or getting out of bed in the dead of night to run to the emergency room if one of his patients had a problem. The hours spent filling out insurance forms equaled the time he spent with patients. And, of course, he had the office rent, the salary of half a dozen nurses and clerks, etc.

Today he has fewer patients, he can provide more than just emergency services, and he can spend much more time with each of his patients.
12 posted on 07/22/2003 5:03:09 AM PDT by moneyrunner (I have not flattered its rank breath, nor bowed to its idolatries a patient knee.)
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To: Glock22
people must pay for the medical care they demand

How dare you?

Did your mommy charge you for milk and cookies when you came home from school?

Did your daddy get payment up front when he put a band-aid on your boo-boo?

Mommy Party or Daddy Party, the People just ain't paying for these services any more!

13 posted on 07/22/2003 5:06:40 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
A friend suggested that doctors should not get paid until you are healthy, the exception being catastrophic illness.
14 posted on 07/22/2003 5:07:49 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Do you like him? Are you comfortable speaking with him? Do you have confidence with his judgement? Do you get all the time you want with your questions answered, even if the answer is "I don't know"?

It sounds like a good idea to me, in theory.
15 posted on 07/22/2003 5:08:30 AM PDT by RJCogburn ("You think one on four's a dogfall?".....Lucky Ned Pepper)
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To: FITZ
Actually, anyone who works is in it for the money.
16 posted on 07/22/2003 5:08:38 AM PDT by mlmr (Support bears naked.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
This is GREAT! Anybody know a doc in the Fort Worth TX. area who is doing this? It would be wonderful to put my worthless insurance dollars into the pocket of a doctor.
17 posted on 07/22/2003 5:09:36 AM PDT by whipitgood (are you ready to act?)
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"When you become a doctor, you take an oath, and part of that is dealing with insurance," she said.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I must have missed the part of the oath that said it was my solemn obligation to deal with insurance. LOL!!!!

18 posted on 07/22/2003 5:39:56 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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On principle I think it's wrong. We have medical insurance, we have our co-pay," said Laurie Lenz, a Southampton resident who said she is having a hard time finding a new doctor who will take her Oxford health insurance. "When you become a doctor, you take an oath, and part of that is dealing with insurance," she said.

Idiots like this will vote for Hillary.

19 posted on 07/22/2003 5:45:23 AM PDT by ikka
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I must have missed the part of the oath that said it was my solemn obligation to deal with insurance.

Sure, doesn't the Hippocratic Oath state...

"First, do nine forms..."

20 posted on 07/22/2003 6:10:00 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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