Someone posted on this topic last May, but this is the first I've heard of it. I'm quite fond of Cato's stands most of the time, and I'd have to believe their side of the story in this case as well. Otherwise, I'd have to believe that Orrin Hatch has a spine. On the other hand, it's hard to say what the Supreme Court is capable of.
1 posted on
07/21/2003 4:29:21 PM PDT by
dr_who_2
To: *bang_list
DC *bang
2 posted on
07/21/2003 4:36:01 PM PDT by
SteveH
To: dr_who_2
I've thought about this a lot, but still can't figure out for sure what is going on. It seems to me that Hatch has a lot to lose by coming out so forcefully for the 2nd Amendment. I have the suspicion that his constituents are more or less liberals to moderates, so this could hurt him there. I keep trying to figure out what his purpose is. Did he all of a sudden get a message from God re the 2A?
Otherwise, I have no idea what any of this means.
3 posted on
07/21/2003 4:44:41 PM PDT by
basil
To: dr_who_2
I was under the impression D.C. was Federal territory like Gitmo and that Constitutional limitations on power were void in such areas.
4 posted on
07/21/2003 4:46:53 PM PDT by
AdamSelene235
(Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
To: dr_who_2
This is a tough call, for sure.
On the one hand, the RTKBA is pretty clear. The SCOTUS hasn't ruled much on it since Miller, which was an anomally.
In that case, 1934, I believe, Miller had a sawed-off shotgun, and at the time, the general law of the land was that civillians could only have firearms which the military had.
The challenge was, that the military did not have sawed off shotguns.
Miller didn't show up. Ruled against.
According to that SCOTUS ruling, we could posess lots of stuff today.
The SCOTUS today is in question, for sure. Who knows.
I am a Bushbot, and will crawl over broken glass to re-elect him, but do we know for sure he will be? Even so, the lame Pubbie Senate is doing a great job not appointing judges.
Is there any doubt that the dems, in a similar position, would not have gone "nuclear?" Whipped dog syndrome.
I hate to say it, but my opinion is take it to the SCOTUS, and let the chips fall where they may. I really don't think it is going to get better.
7 posted on
07/21/2003 4:51:31 PM PDT by
MonroeDNA
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To: dr_who_2
In any case, I do not think that now is the time to be going to the Supreme Court with a 2nd Amendment case. It would have been better before Clinton appointed two justices, but it is too risky now. I don't think that either side has a good idea right now.
To: dr_who_2
Scout around the Internet a bit, and you'll find that Hatch is a friend of the 2nd Amendment, and has a good appreciation of its legal history and underpinnings. I'm plenty suspicious of the NRA, which seems to have been infiltrated by socialist gun-grabbers, but I'm not suspicious of Hatch -- I suspect he has some good reasoms for what he's doing, and may know a good deal more than we do about why the route he's taking may be advisable. Maybe he knows the votes aren't there to overturn the D.C. gun ban.
To: dr_who_2
Here is a link to a Senator Hatch report on "The Right To Keep and Bear Arms "
This is a report by sub-committee on Constitution.
Link to --- The Right to Keep and Bear Arms
21 posted on
07/21/2003 7:26:05 PM PDT by
gatex
To: dr_who_2
I hope this does not go to the SCOTUS.
There is literally zero chance they will find the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. ZERO.
Anybody hear of Miller?
I hope CATO backs off.
32 posted on
07/22/2003 2:40:31 PM PDT by
rwfromkansas
( "There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C. Spurgeon)
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