[Kahonek]

"If you are correct, and I still suggest that it is learned..."

Okay. I'm not really ready to suggest either way yet, as the data aren't in. If sexual orientation is learned, it is likely as a result of something other than actual sexual experience with others. Virtually everyone (gay or straight) knows their sexual orientation before their first sexual experience with another person. Regardless of whether it's learned or not, it does exist independently of behavior.

"A homosexual "orientation" is a sign of someone needing help, not encouragement."

Feel free to help those that you believe need help. I do.

[ArGee]

Virtually everyone (gay or straight) knows their sexual orientation before their first sexual experience with another person.

I'd be interested in seeing the data on that, and how it is determined. I am aware that most people who talk about their first homosexual encounter talk about being either seduced or molested by an older person.

That is anecdotal, of course, but I know of no one who disclaims it.

Shalom.