[Destro]

GW Bush is not "America". He is an employee on a 4 year contract with a possibility of another 4 year extension.

If this happened while Gore (or Clinton) was President (and the Iraq war probably would have happened since the advisors and those think tanks work and advise for both parties-Richard Pearl is a Democrat) we would have demanded an impeachment.

The African nuclear material story was not a case of the Bush White House telling a lie, just a show of incompetence by the Bush White House. One of a string of incompetently handled issues. I would be happy to enoumerate them for you breifly.

9/11-As you know I blame Clinton for 9/11 but the Bush WH did a piss poor job of cutting off Clinton hold overs who downplayed Islamic extremists. In addition Condi Rice (who forced the Ukraine not to send arms to Macedonia for it to defend itself against Islamic rebels-Clinton's old allies) said she never read a report about possible airline terrorist operations and then had to admit she did.

Rumi wanting to send too few troops into Iraq and in the end used the minimum required amount to win the war but not the peace.

The botched diplomacy. Yes our "allies" can share the blame but a diplomat is supposed to KNOW they will reject us before he asks for help in public.

The increase in the size of govt.

I was and still am pro-Iraq war and I have always said that the Iraq war was the right war fought for the wrong reason and fought the wrong way.

[William McKinley]

If this happened while Gore (or Clinton) was President (and the Iraq war probably would have happened since the advisors and those think tanks work and advise for both parties-Richard Pearl is a Democrat) we would have demanded an impeachment.

Nonsense. Remember when Clinton bombed the aspirin factory? That was a much more significant intelligence failure, and no one called for his impeachment over that failure (although some did because he seemed to order the attack to give him political cover).

The African nuclear material story was not a case of the Bush White House telling a lie, just a show of incompetence by the Bush White House.

The African nuclear material story is much ado over nothing. It is so much so that it is long past the point where it is more than fair to openly question the motives of those attempting to portray it as something big.

[William McKinley]

And anyone who buys the attempted spin that we went to war with Iraq because we thought they were attempting to buy Uranium from Africa is a fool. That was but a very, very small part of the overall case- as case that as you said was made (since you said you supported it).