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To: ShandaLear
I am a conservative and a Christian...

You do know that this is essentially the first words out of a seminar caller's mouth when they speak to Rush or Sean.

Absolutely no one is personally effected by gay marriage except the gay couples who marry.

Here is why I have troubles accepting the "I am a Christian" preamble. There is one true definition of "marriage", it was defined six days after the beginning of the Creation of the Universe. So it precedes everything man has to say on the matter. So since God said "One Man and One Woman", and you say that it can be "Two Men" or "Two Women" or "One Man and One Transgendered" you are doing the same thing as Eve in the Garden when she decided to add and delete words from God's Command. You have rejected God's Word and have proclaimed your definition of marriage to be greater than God's. So before there is even one gay "marriage", I can see at least one who has been "personally effected by gay marriage". You. You have used your free will to choose to hate the things of God and worship yourself instead.

The institution of marriage is much more at risk as a result of no fault divorce

Strange enough, divorce was permitted because the people were stubborn. In Matthew 5:32 Jesus Christ recognizes "divorce" and says that those who marry someone who is divorced commits "adultery" (which is condemned in the Decalogue). In Matthew 19:3 the Pharisees were challending Christ on the matter of "No Fault Divorce" (Hillel) and "porneia" divorce (Shammai). Divorce Enthusiasts will read Matthew and ignore Mark and Luke, but that still doesn't say that homosexual "marriages" are OK, since marriage is still defined as "one man and one woman".

This means that you have invented your own definition of "marriage". At that point we have nothing to discuss because we can't communicate because you prefer to redefine words that don't fit your sinfilled thinking. You talk about your private definition of marriage, and I will talk about God's definition of marriage. God's hasn't changed. Yours could because you hijack words to fit your purpose. So today you may define "marriage" as a partnership with alleged long term commitments. How about one man marries two men and three women? How about one woman marries one woman and a male dog? Since you have rejected the clear and absolute definition of marriage, I guess you can make "marriage" mean anything you want.

147 posted on 07/21/2003 8:56:48 AM PDT by Dr Warmoose
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To: Dr Warmoose
I am a conservative and a Christian...

You do know that this is essentially the first words out of a seminar caller's mouth when they speak to Rush or Sean.

Really? No I didn’t know that. I'm listening to Rush right now at work and I haven't heard one caller say that today. Weird.

Absolutely no one is personally effected by gay marriage except the gay couples who marry.

Here is why I have troubles accepting the "I am a Christian" preamble. There is one true definition of "marriage", it was defined six days after the beginning of the Creation of the Universe. So it precedes everything man has to say on the matter. So since God said "One Man and One Woman", and you say that it can be "Two Men" or "Two Women" or "One Man and One Transgendered" you are doing the same thing as Eve in the Garden when she decided to add and delete words from God's Command. You have rejected God's Word and have proclaimed your definition of marriage to be greater than God's. So before there is even one gay "marriage", I can see at least one who has been "personally effected by gay marriage". You. You have used your free will to choose to hate the things of God and worship yourself instead.

You are more than entitled to your opinion. However, where your opinion stops is where my relationship with God begins. I have no intention of defending myself from this kind of tripe, especially when it violates the very scriptures you seem to have appointed yourself as arbiter of. I will say this, the utter arrogance of your response is amazing to me but then I’ve dealt with this from fundamentalist Christians before.

The institution of marriage is much more at risk as a result of no fault divorce

Strange enough, divorce was permitted because the people were stubborn. In Matthew 5:32 Jesus Christ recognizes "divorce" and says that those who marry someone who is divorced commits "adultery" (which is condemned in the Decalogue). In Matthew 19:3 the Pharisees were challending Christ on the matter of "No Fault Divorce" (Hillel) and "porneia" divorce (Shammai). Divorce Enthusiasts will read Matthew and ignore Mark and Luke, but that still doesn't say that homosexual "marriages" are OK, since marriage is still defined as "one man and one woman". This means that you have invented your own definition of "marriage". At that point we have nothing to discuss because we can't communicate because you prefer to redefine words that don't fit your sinfilled thinking. You talk about your private definition of marriage, and I will talk about God's definition of marriage. God's hasn't changed. Yours could because you hijack words to fit your purpose. So today you may define "marriage" as a partnership with alleged long term commitments. How about one man marries two men and three women? How about one woman marries one woman and a male dog? Since you have rejected the clear and absolute definition of marriage, I guess you can make "marriage" mean anything you want.

Again, this is a matter of opinion and I thank God that your opinion carries no weight regarding my personal relationship with God. Tell you what, you take care of you and I’ll take care of me. You’ll find yourself to be a much better person for it, I promise.

156 posted on 07/21/2003 10:53:07 AM PDT by ShandaLear
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