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‘They tied me up and hacked off my lips’
The Times (U.K.) ^
| 07/19/03
| Jonathan Clayton
Posted on 07/18/2003 3:08:09 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: seamole
"The West abandoned Africa long ago, and left Christians like those in Uganda and Liberia at the mercy of the desert savages.
"
I didn't realize we were responsible for thier defense. I'm not responsible for yours, am I? I wouldn't want to not perform my duties.
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posted on
07/18/2003 5:37:49 PM PDT
by
PatrioticAmerican
(Helping Mexicans invade America is TREASON!)
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: thegreatbeast
IS THERE A SPOT ON THE CONTINENT OF AFRICA THAT IS NOT BEFOULED BY CHAOS?
Granted, the "culture" there is pathetic and under-developed. But Africa is three times the land mass of the United States. Of course there are going to be calamities.
There are some successes. Botswana, for example. A non-corrupt capitalist nation in the south.
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posted on
07/18/2003 6:03:52 PM PDT
by
Burr5
To: setcapt
"The entire African continent needs extermination."
Why? Because Africans kill each other too often?
Or because they don't kill each other often enough?
I think you might want to retract that comment before someone accuses you of being a bigoted racist moron.
Or someone reports you for violating FR's "no racist or violent posts" standard.
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posted on
07/18/2003 6:09:08 PM PDT
by
Burr5
To: Burr5
Isn't Botswana the place with one of the highest incidences of AIDS in the world?
As far as the story is concerned, this is just one of an untold many. The entire continent is heading down a long and terrifying abyss from which, at this point, only an act of God would be able to rescue it from its horrible fate. Truly one of the great tragedies in human history, if not the greatest.
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posted on
07/18/2003 6:14:51 PM PDT
by
PPHSFL
(God Bless America)
To: Pokey78
Joseph Kony, the LRAs messianic leader, has mixed traditional Acholi beliefs
with smatterings of Christianity and even Islam to hold his followers in
an evil vice.
Kudos to the writer and The Times.
At least they admitted upfront that Islam is involved.
I've got used to needing to follow the story of these "back-water" conflicts
for weeks and months before any influence of Islam finally slips into the press stories.
Too bad there isn't an accompanying commentary that mentions that the members of
the LRA are violating the precepts of Christianity with their actions...
but they are being faithful to the Koran and the Hadith of the Muslims when
taking out their enemies.
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posted on
07/18/2003 6:32:40 PM PDT
by
VOA
To: VOA; Burr5
One of the problems with Africa is that, outside of certain areas, Christianity "escaped" from the Church and was taken over by self-appointed syncretist charismatic preachers, who have essentially created their own religions by combining the shreds of many half-digested faiths.
If you read Acts, you can see that this was a problem in the early days of Christianity, too, and it was only the growing structure of the church that prevented people from going off and setting up their own personal and often hugely distorted versions of the Christian message.
Africa is at that point now. This is, however, enormously complicated by the presence of Islam, which is itself a personal charismatic/syncretist "revelation" that took over Jewish and Christian scriptures and interpreted them in a way that perverted them and made them hostile to Judaism and Christianity.
What we need in Africa is more orthodox Christianity and fewer crazy, violent, well-armed "prophets."
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posted on
07/18/2003 6:42:58 PM PDT
by
livius
To: Pokey78
Oh, yeah, $15 billion will cure all this.
How can you hope to build any society upon such dregs of humanity? They are a curse on their nation for generations to come.
To: Pokey78
I read it again.
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
To: Pokey78
I think of this when I see a black American wearing African garb
as if they could identify with them in anyway.. what..so..ever.
I always, without exception want to say "Do you know what it would be like if you lived there?!!"
To: Pokey78
Haven't things been wonderfull ever since the opressive yoke of colonialism has been lifted.
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posted on
07/18/2003 7:09:04 PM PDT
by
fso301
Comment #32 Removed by Moderator
To: DainBramage
Those dashiki-wearing types think that 'Coming to America' was a documentary, that there are benevolent despots a-plenty, countries where elephants peacefully wander across golf courses, and the people are all happy. And it's only colonial interference that ruined the paradise that is the REST of Africa.
And of course, we're the racist idiots. [/sarcasm]
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posted on
07/18/2003 7:31:23 PM PDT
by
LibertarianInExile
("I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me, Superman!" - Homer Simpson)
To: Pokey78
I thought this was going to be an article about Web Hubbell's daughter Chelsea.
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posted on
07/18/2003 9:27:24 PM PDT
by
TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
(Soccer Mom's flee the Rats for Bush in his flight suit: I call this the Moisture Factor. MF high!)
To: LibertarianInExile
As far as slaughter on a grand scale the Africans have nothing on the Europeans. 85 million slaughtered or starved in Russia alone in the 20th cebtury. Isn't progress a wonderful thing?
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posted on
07/18/2003 11:20:21 PM PDT
by
eldoradude
(Protect endangered species, collect the set)
To: A Fighting Liberal
That pretty much sums up the attitude the kids hacking off the lips and thumbs have towards their victims. Nice try at a moral equivalency, mush-head. The glaring difference is that the victims in Africa didn't START by hacking anyone into chum. They were just innocent children maimed by subhuman vermin. In retribution for those acts of depravity, the victimizers have forfeited any claim to mercy or even humanity.
Nice symmetry there. Are you sure your handle isn't IronyJack?
Thank you. And yes, I'm quite sure of the name. However, I do detect an apparent contradiction in YOURS, since I've never met a "Liberal" yet who had the guts to fight anything, or the mental wherewithal to successfully carry it out even if the flesh was willing.
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posted on
07/19/2003 6:20:16 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: eldoradude
85 million slaughtered or starved in Russia alone in the 20th century. Another triumph for Glorious Socialism.
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posted on
07/19/2003 6:21:36 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Burr5
I think you might want to retract that comment before someone accuses you of being a bigoted racist moron. He's been doing that over a fair amount of time. Apparantly that poster hates everyone.
To: eldoradude
Oh, I got nothing against Africans specifically. Europeans aren't my favorites, either. I just hate the folks stomping around here saying that Europeans are the root of all African problems, when African civil and tribal wars have been killin' folks there a long time.
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posted on
07/19/2003 10:15:08 PM PDT
by
LibertarianInExile
("Oh, by the way, I was being sarcastic!" - Homer Simpson)
To: LibertarianInExile
They're a bunch of savage cannibals on one side and a bunch of psychotic socialists on the other. Put 'em together and you'd have government subsidized 'long pig'. Or would that offend the sodomite muhammedans? Is human flesh OK for mooselims to eat? From what they whacked off of that poor kid it sounded like they had some kind of sausage recipe. Salaami, anyone?
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posted on
07/19/2003 11:13:45 PM PDT
by
eldoradude
(Protect endangered species, collect the set)
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