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Nice. Change history at a whim. Pathetic.

Well, it's obvious (IMHO) that this is exactly what the gospel writers did. I think there is very little doubt that Jesus was tried, convicted and executed exclusively by the Romans; and the notion that a Roman governor publicly proclaimed him innocent, washed his hands, and all that, and then proceeded with the execution, is patent nonsense.

The unvarnished truth, however, was inconvenient for the new Christian religion, so it wrote a bit of "spin" into the Gospels: "No, Mr. Roman, we don't blame YOU for killing our God."

Christians do not blame any individual or group be it Jews,Romans,midgets,blacks,or democrats for the crusifixation of Christ. This whole controversy is straight from the pits of Hell. WE ALL CRUCIFIED CHRIST!

Says you.

Of course your credibility is somewhat less than thousands of manuscripts dating back nearly two thousand years.

Prattle on, the only people listening will believe anything.

"Well, it's obvious (IMHO) that this is exactly what the gospel writers did. I think there is very little doubt that Jesus was tried, convicted and executed exclusively by the Romans; and the notion that a Roman governor publicly proclaimed him innocent, washed his hands, and all that, and then proceeded with the execution, is patent nonsense.

The unvarnished truth, however, was inconvenient for the new Christian religion, so it wrote a bit of "spin" into the Gospels: "No, Mr. Roman, we don't blame YOU for killing our God"

Upon what ancient text or source do you base this assessment? You think the founders of Christianity had that kind of prescience that they would deliberately falsify what really happened...to get "truth" out so that certain groups in the future would not be "offended"? You make it sound like Goebbels or other professional 20th and 21st century spin meisters had been around for the founding of Christianity.

The whole World is blamed for the crucifixion. More of a truth, Christ deliberately "laid his life down" for all men. The people of that era and the main players were just bit players on a stage that included a spiritual battle to destroy evil. Christ stated to Pilate that those who delivered him to Pilate "had the greater sin".

Roman governors were given to symbolic public flourishes, Pilate indeed may have "washed his hands" of Christ's blood, especially after the San Hedrin and many in the crowd declared, in a deliciously ironic and historically Hebrew way.."His blood be upon us and our children", which is a way of saying.."We accept the responsibility for his death!" The irony is, that His blood is indeed "laid on us".

That Pilate understood the culture and had some insight as to what drove it, can be noted by his placement of the inscription "King of the Jews" in three languages on the cross of Jesus. When the Priests asked that the language be changed to "He SAID he was the King of the Jews", Pilate refused. Pilate was known for ruthlessness and sarcasm played a big part of that. To do what he did with the inscription, before the pass-over no less, would insult the San Hedrin and insult them deeply in a way that they could not retaliate against. He gave them their sacrifice, but he would not allow them a clean triumph, he wanted this crucifixion to stick in their craw!

Being educated in Roman law, he could see the implicit unfairness of what was happening to an innocent man, but he was also charged with keeping order as well as trying to keep his own neck off the imperial chopping block. The Jewish leaders threatened to go to the Emperor charging that Pilate was allowing a man, who claimed to be king, to stay alive in direct challenge to imperial authority. Judea had a special status in the Roman Empire, that no other provinces had. Pilate knew this, and this strange troika of Jewish religion, and Pagan politics must have been a real night-mare to manage. (In the end, sorry dude, I think you are a good man, but I have the empire, province and my own neck to think about...nothing personal, say hello to Pluto for me).

Pilate was trapped in a kind of historical/temporal/ spiritual limbo that he could see no escape from other than setting the man free or killing him. His wife, according to the Bible certainly sensed it, warning Pilate to "have nothing to do with this man, for I have been greatly troubled by him" In the end, Pilate had him killed, thus unleashing Christianity!

I think there is very little doubt that Jesus was tried, convicted and executed exclusively by the Romans; and the notion that a Roman governor publicly proclaimed him innocent, washed his hands, and all that, and then proceeded with the execution, is patent nonsense.

Not true. Early Jewish sources, such as the Talmud, attest to the fact that the priestly class of Jesus' time wanted Him dead. In fact, the Talmud doesn't mention the Romans at all; they give full credit to the priests for hanging Yesu"(sorry, don't have the exact quotes in front of me, but they're readily available on the Internet and at any library).

P.S. I'm not saying that the Romans weren't the ones who executed Jesus, simply stating the fact that the Talmud seems not to be shy in saying that the High Priests were instrumental in His death.