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"We've got the better browser," said Baker. "And that's what really matters."

No browser for the PC is better than Mozilla, IMHO, except for (perhaps) Firebird.

1 posted on 07/17/2003 7:08:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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3 posted on 07/17/2003 7:10:12 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Opera.

I've tried Mozilla binaries once and it was the biggest clunkiest slowest "monsters" I've ever installed. Granted, the pre-compiled binaries may have had all sorts of debug/development code switches turned on, and had I an ounce of patience, I might be able to compile exactly what I want. But for an end user that uses IE, I just don't think Mozilla is a ready-to-go option as Opera is.

4 posted on 07/17/2003 7:14:40 AM PDT by sam_paine
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"Mozilla Foundation"

I'd be interested to know if this is a non-profit org.

If so, it explains why AOL has spun it off. They can write off expenses involved in developing mozilla rather than flat out killing it. It's alway better to give away your money at the end of the year to a group like this than the IRS.

The danger is that Time-Warner is beginning to dominate the picture, and they may ultimately decide this is an unwanted piece of AOL's legacy. That's why it is important that Mozilla Foundation owns the IP rights.

I like Mozilla (I use firebird for my personal browsing) but I don't see it becoming a direct competetor to MS by itself. I do see the potential that it's many open source offshoots will erode IE's numbers over time.

Netscape is dead now. Nobody is officially going to say it, but it will wither on the vine.

7 posted on 07/17/2003 8:05:33 AM PDT by shadowman99
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8 posted on 07/17/2003 8:07:28 AM PDT by bvw
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Mozilla is my primary browser, but several times a week I have to pop back into Explorer to use some website that won't work properly with Mozilla.
11 posted on 07/17/2003 8:32:12 AM PDT by kezekiel
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Agreed, although I use Opera sometimes too. I've never liked IE, even though I am forced to deploy it in my network.
12 posted on 07/17/2003 8:38:04 AM PDT by SoDak
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"Users will use what is on their computer already," he said. "If they want pop-up blocking,

"Mozilla won't win with the general public by having a superior feature set," he added. "It won't win by rendering faster or being more standards-compliant. Heck, IE didn't do any of those things to get where it is today. It's on top because it's on every desktop."

Which is exactly why Microsoft jumped through hoops to make it part of their operating system. So long as IE continues to use open standards and I can use Mozilla, Safari, or even Lynx (which I frankly use more than any other browser), I don't really care of they have a 99% market share. I just don't want Microsoft to use their market dominance to undermine open standards. Fortunately, so far, every time Microsoft has tried, they've failed.

13 posted on 07/17/2003 8:45:16 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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Posted with Mozilla!
17 posted on 07/17/2003 8:54:32 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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Mozilla ... it's hosting a party that nobody wants to attend...
18 posted on 07/17/2003 9:20:47 AM PDT by Bush2000 (R>)
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"For example, the latest versions of Mozilla support tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking."

Mozilla sweetness & light bump!

21 posted on 07/17/2003 12:10:22 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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I used only Netscape's browser for years. It loaded pages faster than IE. But IE kept improving on speed and interface. And I loved the Full Screen mode of IE. I now have Mozilla and IE. For some reason my IE will only save pictures as bitmap files. I downloaded Mozilla so I could save pictures in their original format as jpeg or gif files or whatever else. This is the only copy of IE I've ever had that won't let me save pics the way I want.
25 posted on 07/17/2003 1:17:21 PM PDT by razorbak
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