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Collective Farming In the California Delta--How to Become A Communist Without Even Trying!
http://www.homesteadlwa.com ^ | April, 2003 | Sharon Votaw

Posted on 07/16/2003 1:11:42 PM PDT by countrydummy

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To: Eala
Forgive me if I some how insinuated you were giving up, I was just trying to encourage you to not and keep doing what you are doing!

I have spent the last 4 years of my life doing what I am now doing, and I did not know how to do it well, and really still don't, but I try and that is the thing...misspelled words mean nothing to me, as long as I can get your drift....fight and fight hard for your home, your heritage and life style, I will do all I can to help!
I am sick of what is happpening to Our country and I am damned and determined to stop it!
21 posted on 07/16/2003 6:44:03 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: PARKFAN
I think people now are so fearful of their government that they are secretly glad the government is focused on some other victim. They think if they just huddle down low enough, long enough they will survive unscathed. Too often I hear people say that it is really bad but at least it won't happen in their lifetime. They do not know it has already happened.

I think you are generally correct. I don't perceive that people are so fearful they're glad it's someone else under the gun (as if the "gun" were inevitable), but I don't think the public in general sees the extent of the change that's occurred already. That's the problem with slow accomodation.

22 posted on 07/16/2003 6:47:06 PM PDT by Eala (It is seldom that any liberty is lost all at once. -- David Hume)
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To: countrydummy
SOCIALISM INTSUM
23 posted on 07/16/2003 8:12:58 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: PARKFAN
"They do not know it has already happened."

How can a person born a slave understand freedom? We now have a generation of young adults who have no memory of life without the all encompassing tentacles of government. I dared to suggest on another thread recently that this country is not actually free and was called a "clueless ingrate" among other things. Some seem to think that because things were worse in Iraq that we must be free here but freedom is a superlative, there are no degrees of freedom, only degrees of repression and we have seen the jaws of repression slowly ratchet ever tighter for as long as I have been alive to see it. Only those who have the knowledge of history and the imagination to envision Davey Crockett coming back to life and what he would think of the present situation can comprehend what has happened.
24 posted on 07/17/2003 3:20:06 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Mercy on a pore boy lemme have a dollar bill!)
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To everyone on FR: If you OWN the land you occupy (as in you hold the real estate Deed), there IS a way to protect yourself, your heirs, and keep the insane regulations from taking your land. It's called a Land Patent. Land Patents are not just for mining claims, they apply to all parcels of land. Some of the places that can help you do this are a little "fringe", but they exist to get the gov't off of your back so the trade-off is worth it. One example is the "Aware Group". Also, just do a web search on Land Patents.
25 posted on 07/17/2003 9:56:09 PM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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To: 11B3
Land patents should be good in our courts but, up to now they have not been upheld in the courts. Pacific Legal Foundation would not touch my claim on a patent and my patent was part of a Mexican land grant and only 4 owners since statehood. Our courts are redefining the law of the land.
26 posted on 07/18/2003 8:01:14 PM PDT by PARKFAN
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To: RipSawyer
You are too correct I fear. What will it take? Where is the rage at the supression of dreams?
27 posted on 07/18/2003 8:05:29 PM PDT by PARKFAN
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To: countrydummy

“WE NEED to wake up and stop it now”

We are doomed to recede into oblivion.


28 posted on 05/15/2009 10:43:34 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: grapeape
I really would like to know how much all of the environmental programs have cost the government in total up until now.

The real question:

I really would like to know how much all of the environmental programs have cost the government  taxpayers in total up until now.

Government programs don't ever cost the government anything; that's what taxes are for.

29 posted on 05/15/2009 10:53:38 AM PDT by Bob
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To: countrydummy

In WA State, they are going after the small farmers, what they call hobby farms. They are forcing them to sign farm plans which once completed and changes are made, subjects the farmer to periodic inspections, which the farmer must pay for. They require all animals to be fenced away from drainage ditches, a distance of between 50-100 feet (we haven’t figured out how the distance is determined), all kinds of rules about the manure piles and redistributing. In some counties they make the farmers map the cow pies, in others, they want the manure piles picked up and composted. They have no proof that any of the farm run off is actually reaching any stream, river or bay. They just make these requirements and also make the farmers pay for the privilege of being regulated. Farm plans can cost as much as $15,000, not including any of the work required.

Oh, and the county monitors the land use by helicopter and aerial photography.


30 posted on 05/15/2009 1:51:56 PM PDT by Eva (union motto - Aim for mediocrity, it's only fair.)
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To: countrydummy

I don’t think everyone is asleep, and I figure a few of them have deduced the logical outcome of this and its solution. That is why gun sales are so high. This will lead to war when there are more eaters than producers and I figure we are about there right now. There is a whole lot of people voting with their wallets in gun stores. It is a silent vote that speaks very loud.


31 posted on 05/15/2009 8:14:29 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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