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To: TonyRo76
Yeah, excellent point. Dig this, if you will:

If the Christian God is the real God, then He loves Kate Michelman, even though she has put her life into perpetutaing legal baby-killing, and in fact, He was crucified in her place. Take any evil God-hater or malcontent you want (Bill Clinton, Osama bin-Laden, Josef Stalin, etc.) and their evil actions and slot them into that sentence, and it fits. Jesus, His Father and the Holy Spirit love everyone without condition.

If the Allah is the real God, then God hates all those people I mentioned above, except Osama. He also hates me, even though I strive to live by almost all of the moral code his followers revere. He doesn't just think I deserve Hell for my mistaken adherence to non-Islamic faith, he wants his followers to kill me horribly in this life.

Religion of peace? Can't be, because its god is about as peaceful as the Columbine shooters.

10 posted on 07/16/2003 11:54:28 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (I had to give up jogging, the ice keeps falling out of my glass.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
If the Christian God is the real God, then He loves Kate Michelman, even though she
has put her life into perpetutaing legal baby-killing....


People like Michaelman (and even more "Christian leaders") who promote abortion
remind me of the Southern slave-holders who were in their Christian churches each Sunday.

Just as the slave-holders read the first couple books of The Old Testament
and failed to get a clue that The Almighty can make life nasty for slave-holders...
the pro-choice Christian crowd seem to think that Jesus would have said
"...no millstones for the abortionists! They are only offending the little ones
when they are very little ones."
14 posted on 07/16/2003 12:23:41 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Mr. Silverback
God loves Kate Michelman?

The last half of Psalm 11 goes like this:

The Lord is in his Holy Temple, The Lord's throne is in heaven, His eyes behold, His eyelids test the sons of men. The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked, and the one who loves violence, His soul hates. Upon the wicked He will rain coals, fire and brimstone and a burning wind. This shall be the portion of their cup.

For the Lord is Righteous. He loves righteousness. The upright will behold his face.

Of course, the Lord also says: "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, and not that He should turn from his wicked ways and live?" Perhaps I can make the case that there are those who are merely wicked, and then there are those who "love violence" (and loving abortion clearly counts as loving violence). Why should it be surprising that God hates people who love abortion? Abortion is that which God did not command, nor did it enter His mind! Think of it: abortion is an action so vile, that it didn't even occur to the omniscient Creator of the Universe! (And just to stave off any "Can God make a square circle?" sophistries, omniscient means knowing everything that it is good to know.) If sacrificing (unborn) children to the gods of success is therefore "over the top" in such a horrible way, can you be completely sure that God loves those who do so and do not repent?

15 posted on 07/16/2003 2:23:50 PM PDT by thirdheavenward
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