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To: Sam Cree
When something big and difficult gets done, it gets done because enough people are willing to do the job. Take combat in 1941 - 1945 as an example. I would call the kind of people who get the job done "good men", or if you insist on the "modern" language, "good people." Most people just want a "job" for the income and percieved social status, not to get the job done. Good men are replaced by careerists, most of whom do not realize they are not good men. (Good old "in denial.")

The careerists are always talking about "justice" and "rights" and "equal pay for equal work," "fairness", "glass ceilings", "discrimination", etc., and whining that they get no respect. Then the careerists hire and are replaced by time servers, who hire even worse people. Only the very best people will hire people who are better men than they are.

This is just the way things are. "Human nature," they call it.

11 posted on 07/16/2003 1:32:26 PM PDT by Iris7
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To: Iris7
"Take combat in 1941 - 1945 as an example"

Yeah, think you are right. My dad was in on that, in Europe, D-Day to the Bulge and into Germany with the IV, as an infantryman, over 200% casualties for the division by war's end. Yeah, that was commitment and motivation. For the whole world, pretty much, on both sides.

I have often thanked God that my own personal little family has not had to go through such a thing. Though I fear it is starting now.

But if we want to be "good men," we'll prevail.

17 posted on 07/16/2003 6:17:24 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Iris7
There are fields were performance remains high, over generations. Every one I'm thinking of has the professional delivering directly to the person who uses or benefits from what is deleivered For example: surgeons, fire men, tailors, carpenters, masons, plumbers, electricians, theater.

24 posted on 07/16/2003 9:06:22 PM PDT by bvw
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