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Scientists attempt to clone woolly mammoth
The Independent (U.K.) ^ | 07/16/03 | Charles Arthur

Posted on 07/15/2003 2:38:04 PM PDT by Pokey78

Scientists hoping to clone prehistoric woolly mammoths are preparing their first frozen DNA samples in a bid to revive the species.

The specimens of bone marrow, muscle and skin were unearthed last August in the Siberian tundra where they had been preserved in ice for thousands of years.

Researchers at the Gifu Science and Technology Centre and Kinki University want to use the genetic material in the cells to clone a woolly mammoth, according to Akira Irytani, a scientist at Kinki University in western Japan.

First they must determine whether the five specimens airlifted from Russia are really from mammoths. If so, they must decide whether the DNA locked inside is well enough preserved to self-replicate. After that, it could take several years to actually produce an animal. "There are many different problems to overcome," the Gifu Centre's Hideyoshi Ichibashi said. "I think we can move ahead only one step at a time."

The idea of cloning mammoths from specimens discovered in permafrost holds a perennial fascination for scientists since cloning of adult mammals was shown to be feasible with Dolly the sheep in 1996. But in 1999 Alexei Tikhonov, chairman of the Mammoth Committee of the Russian Academy of Science, who took part in an expedition that uncovered one of the animals buried in the permafrost, said he and his colleagues on the scientific committee were not preparing to clone the mammal. "You have to have a living cell for cloning, and not a single cell can survive in the permafrost," he said then.

Dr Irytani said the idea was to develop the cloning technology on extinct animals to aid in the preservation of endangered species. So far, six mammoths have been discovered and partially or completely unearthed from the permafrost, which is as hard as concrete and has to be broken up with jackhammers.

Kinki University scientists, with veterinary experts from Kagoshima University in southern Japan, have searched for mammoth DNA samples since 1997 in Siberia. The techniques used include ground-penetrating radar, which can detect the size and shape of buried objects.

So far, no cells bearing cloning-quality DNA have been found. The initial plan called for finding mammoth sperm cells, which could be used to inseminate a modern day elephant and create a mammoth-elephant hybrid. But no sperm cells have been found, and other samples retrieved during previous excavations, including legs buried under permafrost, have turned out to be left unusable by time and climate changes.

Dr Irytani was more hopeful about their samples, estimated at 20,000 years old, saying they had been well preserved in the ground at about -20C (-4F).

Mammoths died out about 13,000 years ago because humans hunted them to extinction. One plan to revive mammoths would not use cloning, but the more straightforward technique of artificial insemination of any intact sperm into African elephants, the mammoths' closest living relative.


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: holster hank
I wonder if anyone thought of trying to cross clone one of these mammoths with a pig.

You want to keep the Kennedy line going?

22 posted on 07/15/2003 3:14:14 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: CholeraJoe
I liked onelifetogive's explanation better. Europeans were better hunters than Africans.

That's because global warming made the African hunters lathargic.

23 posted on 07/15/2003 3:16:11 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Pokey78
"Mammoths died out about 13,000 years ago because humans hunted them to extinction."

I'm surprised the same scientist hasn't theorized the Brontosaurus died out because Bedrock drive-ins served up one too many Bronto-burgers.

25 posted on 07/15/2003 3:18:48 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Ann Coulter for Attorney General... Joe Scarborough for VP...Tom Tancredo as Homeland Security Chief)
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To: holster hank
You'd get little potbellied mammoths!

And they'll need food...


26 posted on 07/15/2003 3:19:37 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: RightWhale
Hmm...lemme think about that...one mammoth, sixteen feet high at the shoulder, 12-foot tusks, five tons of hairy elephantine fury capable of crushing rocks under its massive feet...and then there's BtD, skinny, nekkid, five foot eight of goosebumped panic with a sharpened stick in his hand and a little puddle between his feet...tell me again, which species was it that went extinct?...???
27 posted on 07/15/2003 3:20:18 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Pokey78
Wow ! This sounds like a great work of fiction! Maybe if its a real hot seller, we could make it a movie! Lets have someone who is real good in this genre do it...and .. oh..What?... Someone already did it???

Nevermind...

28 posted on 07/15/2003 3:24:53 PM PDT by China Clipper
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To: Mean Daddy
Absolutely. This is the kind of science I've grown so weary of on Discovery Channel, TLC, etc. They take one theory and call it fact, and it isn't even nearly the most plausible theory! What utter BS.
29 posted on 07/15/2003 3:25:03 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Billthedrill
five tons of hairy elephantine fury

Maybe they didn't have fury back then. They were probably placid browsers. You'd stick one and then move the camp to the carcass rather than dragging the carcass to the camp. Life was good, don't hear many complaints.

30 posted on 07/15/2003 3:26:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: Naspino; Pokey78
Mammoths died out about 13,000 years ago because humans hunted them to extinction. of Reagan. Women and minorities were hardest hit.

I'm surprised they didn't use this version.

31 posted on 07/15/2003 3:28:03 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: RightWhale
They were probably placid browsers. You'd stick one and then move the camp to the carcass rather than dragging the carcass to the camp.

Oh, OK, I get it then. I tell my buddy Ogh that they're placid browsers and to go poke them with a stick for me. I stay back in camp with the wimmin until the screaming's over and then move it to the feast. That's how the species survived...

32 posted on 07/15/2003 3:33:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: IYAS9YAS
O great.... now were are going to see a rash of angry young artists smear mammoth poop all over some religous paintings...
34 posted on 07/15/2003 3:48:36 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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To: Quatermass
How does that address the mammoth's extinction in Asia? Hominids were plentiful in Central Asia 12,000 years ago, weren't they?
36 posted on 07/15/2003 3:55:24 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (White Devils for Sharpton. We're baaaaad. We're Nationwide)
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To: Pokey78
They should be careful. You never know what will pop outta the petri dish...


37 posted on 07/15/2003 4:01:47 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: Pokey78
I'm thinking they could set aside a large portion of Canada more than 150 miles from the US border from them .... no one lives up there anyway
38 posted on 07/15/2003 4:05:15 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Pokey78
Coming late to this thread, I'm curious how the topic could have possibly generated so many responses that needed to be deleted.

It's a fun science story.

39 posted on 07/15/2003 4:12:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Coming late to this thread, I'm curious how the topic could have possibly generated so many responses that needed to be deleted.

I know, I was thinking the same thing!

40 posted on 07/15/2003 4:17:39 PM PDT by DaughterofEve (W)
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