[newwahoo]

It might be a hard fight. We'll pull over people in groups in spots like that just because the locations are marked clearly, making testimony in court easier.

You may get lucky though if the cop is a new guy like me. The testimony we have to present is like a little complicated dance ("I was approx. 50 feet from the corner, traffic was moderate heading southbound, the traffic control devices were functioning and hanging approx. 30 ft. from the ground, etc."), and we're not as good at doing it as the more experienced officers. If the cop is from the Highway unit you're really in trouble. I saw one of them beat 6 guys in a row at court a while ago.

[BrooklynGOP]

Well, this is how it happened. I just merged from Cross Island onto Grand Central and the traffic there is always heavy so they were basically walking between the cars and they pulled me out of the right lane. I am going to ask him what the distance was between my car and him when he allegedly observed me driving on the shoulder and if he could clearly see me. I mean, if there was good visibility between us and he was like 100 feet away, why would I be driving on the shoulder when there were 2-3 cars police cars *on* the shoulder? What do you think?

[Catspaw]

If the cop is from the Highway unit you're really in trouble. I saw one of them beat 6 guys in a row at court a while ago.

I've seen members of the Wisconsin State Patrol in court. They're gooood.

The area in question is patrolled by the various municipalities (usually very small departments)--and the county sheriff's department inbetween. In Wisconsin, the State Patrol is rarely off the main highways. In this part of Wisconsin, that's Hwy. 41 & I-43.