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Exactly what is the gay 'agenda' and 'lifestyle'?
Amarillo Globe News ^ | July 15, 2003 | Greg Sagan

Posted on 07/15/2003 10:41:28 AM PDT by gcruse

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To: Dr Warmoose
There is quite a difference between "judgement" and "discernment".

Right. Romans 1 deals with discernment -- which is what I was trying to say when I said it offers guidance to a church.

81 posted on 07/15/2003 12:06:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: gcruse
Then let God take care of it. He created the gays, they're his problem. They're his laws, let him enforce them. /sarcasm

Just like God created incest, beastiality and killing sprees? These are human sins against nature and God condemns such actions but they are a choice. Being human, many take part in these sins because thats what humans do..

Ignoring Gods orders is foolish and dangerous. Blaming God for these sins is also foolish and dangerous.

82 posted on 07/15/2003 12:06:53 PM PDT by smith288 (We are but a moon, reflecting the light of the Son.)
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To: caprock
By the way, with all my other glaring faults, I am an atheist,
so your Elmer Gantry outbursts fall on sterile ground. As for being called Sparky, that's truly bizarre. As a radioman in the Navy, I was often called that. For it to be used as some sort of insult doesn't work.
83 posted on 07/15/2003 12:09:44 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: r9etb
I agree, I just have a semantic difference. I refer to a pattern of homosexual behavior as "homosexuality", while I don't use a particular word for sexual urges or inclinations... It doesn't particularly bother me if it is innate -- for exactly the reason you state re: pedophiles.
84 posted on 07/15/2003 12:10:50 PM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: smith288
Blaming God for these sins is also foolish and dangerous.

No more dangerous than stepping on sidewalk cracks, in my experience,
and my mother's back is just fine, thanks.  ;)
85 posted on 07/15/2003 12:12:08 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: All
Ignorance to the nth degree!!

The "agenda" involves "normalization" of a deviant lifestyle by "desensitizing" straight people to it's existence.

What better place to start than in our schools? We've all read the stories of 5 year olds being indoctrinated to "gayness" through clever story books involving two mommies and two daddies, etc. not to mention "how to" in sex ed for higher grades.

Don't forget "marriage" and the saturation in the media with gay heroes in movies and television shows. Now cartoon characters are even "coming out" to further desensitize our children.

How many heteros here introduce yourselves and say, "Hi, my name is Tom and I'm a heterosexual!" What is so damned important to this particular group of people that makes it necessary to identify themselves by their sexual orientation??

It's all part of the agenda of "wearing us down".

I, for one, am sick of this 2% of the population that's walking all over our society. It's time to stop the madness and NOT allow anymore moral decline in this country. If Canada or the Scandanavian countries want to embrace gayness as normal, it doesn't mean the United States has to follow suit.

If homosexuals don't find our policies to their liking, let them "relocate" to more gay-friendly countries and leave us the hell alone!

86 posted on 07/15/2003 12:12:38 PM PDT by moondoggie
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"41 avg lifespan without AIDS"

'Care to provide a source for this preposterous assertion?'

These stats are nothing new. There are countless studies that parrot these figures. Studies of homosexual publications listing obituaries, medical reporting of AIDS deaths, and many more studies support these figures. Included in these "preposterous" assertions are the highly disproportionate numbers of deaths due to male-homosexually related (1) suicide, (2) alcoholism, (3) STDs, (4) homicides, (5) AIDS, and (6) use of narcotics. It's a highly reckless way of life that cannot be criticized by PC standards. If AIDS doesn't get them, many other things do. And organizations such as Exodus International that have been very successful in rehabbing homosexuals gets dragged thru the mud by the "orientation obsessed" crowd.
87 posted on 07/15/2003 12:15:28 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: gcruse
Please don your fire-retardant vest next time. This should be a good read, but I think I'll sit this one out this time. The anti-gay types are going to be p*ssssssssssed.

Trace

88 posted on 07/15/2003 12:15:30 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: gcruse; nmh
Gcruse, are you gay?

hey, this looks familiar...

absolutely irrelevant and a cheap shot, but familiar.

Trace

89 posted on 07/15/2003 12:17:46 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Trace21230
Come on in, Trace. The hellfire's fine!
90 posted on 07/15/2003 12:19:54 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: moondoggie; All
this is what the homosexuals ARE NOW doing to children.

If your school district is using GLSEN materials, THIS IS IN YOUR SCHOOL and being used to recruit YOUR CHILD!.

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92 posted on 07/15/2003 12:21:05 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: gcruse
Exactly what is the gay 'agenda' and 'lifestyle'?

Well it can get kind of smelly for one.

93 posted on 07/15/2003 12:21:48 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Are these people for real?)
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To: Emmylou
#68 is a gem. LOL!

Trace
94 posted on 07/15/2003 12:22:03 PM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Emmylou
we keep trying to persuade you but your mind is closed. (the orthodox religion thread was a cute attempt to bash the church though)
95 posted on 07/15/2003 12:27:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: gcruse
So you're saying you can be talked out of your sexual orientation?

I see what you're up to here, Gary. Don't you even dare try to talk me out of my sexual orientation!! ;-)

96 posted on 07/15/2003 12:27:57 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: Paradox
Yes, they do recruit - but who they recruit is teenagers - primarily.

They have their "agenda" programs at school which causes the children to start to doubt who and what they are. I've seen that tactic totall destroy a very bright young girl. She was a friend's daughter.

The girl was so confused she tried to commit suicide several times. The family moved away and I've lost contact, but my friend was convinced it was rampant in California schools and she wanted to get her child out of here.
97 posted on 07/15/2003 12:28:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Trace21230
" cheap shot"

Asking if someone is gay is a cheap shot? Why? Is something wrong with being gay?

99 posted on 07/15/2003 12:29:25 PM PDT by MEGoody
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To: smith288
Ignoring Gods orders is foolish and dangerous. Blaming God for these sins is also foolish and dangerous.

So your belief in God is based on fear, I take it. Rationality goes out the window when emotions take over. And that's why so many posters are unable to live and let live with homosexuality.

100 posted on 07/15/2003 12:29:31 PM PDT by Misterioso (B is B.)
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