Exactly what is the gay 'agenda' and 'lifestyle'?

Amarillo Globe News ^ | July 15, 2003 | Greg Sagan

[MEGoody]

"So yes, I've changed my behavior. But I haven't changed my smoking orientation."

And there are many who stopped smoking 10 years ago and don't crave them every day. Guess that means they DID change their smoking orientation.

[longtermmemmory]

so you have no problem with the homosexuals teaching NORMAL children to engage in homosexuals sex as RECORDED in the following audio excerpts:

Scott Whiteman: What Your Child Can Do On An All Out Sex Date (Length 4:41)
Scott Whiteman: Teaching Children to Try Something Bad... TRIBADISM (Length 3:38)
Scott Whiteman: Children Learn About 'Fisting' (Length 5:36)
Scott Whiteman: As With Vegetables, Children Shouldn't Knock Homosexuality Until They Have Tried It (Length 8:02)


as for your smoking, you are now a non-smoker. You will not even open you mind enough to see the truth in front of your face. (its like using a flashlight in daylight and refusing to use the sun)

[brownie]

So you're saying you can be talked out of your sexual orientation?

No, what he said, read it again, is that homosexuals attempt to recruit young, impressionable people before they are fully formed and that homosexuality can be cured. Note homosexuals obsession with joining youth groups and teaching homosexuality in school. Moreover, note the homosexual culture's obsession with youth.

Considering that only about 1-3% of the country is homosexual (if that), why does it need to be taught in all of the schools? No one without serious emotional issues/problems would decide to become a homosexual, so it is unlikely that he -or most fully formed adults - can be "talked out of" their normal, nature intended homosexuality.

Indeed, science has not been able to prove the homosexuals' claim that one is born homosexual. If fact, science seems to indicate the opposite. Thus, you never see any, not one, actual scientific study referenced in any homosexual agenda/promoter's arguments.

Finally, I could care less if someone decides to sodomize someone else, have multiple/multiple partners without protection and engage in an unhealthy lifestyle. It simply helps clean up the gene pool. However, stop asking the rest of us to a) pay for it; b) support it; c) teach it in our schools; d) change the U.S. Constitution (although the current sodomy 6 did that, hopefully their illegal action will not stand; and e) grant homesexuals preferences (affirmative action/ hate crime laws). Simply live your life and leave us alone.

[wardaddy]

You are correct. There is simply not the same level of consternation towards chickenhawking young post pubescent males in the homosexual community that there is in the heterosexual community towards adult males preying on 12-17 year old girls.

My mom is a lifelong artsy/fartsy fag hag and my wife being a fashion and design maven also knows her way around Nashville's homosexual community quite well and I have seen enough of it with my own lying eyes.

[longtermmemmory]

ask representative Foley from Florida.

ask the judge in broward during the florida 2000 recount.

[pogo101]

(3) Teenagers are confused sexually. I beg to differ. I never once recall any of my friends trying to decide if they wanted to go to the dance with Jim or Betty. (Why it's just so darn confusing!) Come on, by the time a person reaches puberty, he or she knows whether he/she likes boys or girls.

I think you made some good points until this third one, which I think you're painting in black & white instead of a shade of gray.

Indeed, many or most of my gay acquaintances didn't realize their orientation was other-than-hetero until well past their high school years; and most were living hetero dating lives during H.S. (among those who were dating; some were not).

Most of these acquaintances describe a two-stage realization process: they didn't subjectively know their orientation in their mid-teens, on the one hand, and thought at the time they were hetero; but on the other hand, once they figured things out in their 20s, they re-examined their teens and reflect that, "in a way, I always knew," or something similar.

Your third point, by generalizing, appears to exclude this very common phenomenon.

[brownie]

So your belief in God is based on fear, I take it. Rationality goes out the window when emotions take over. And that's why so many posters are unable to live and let live with homosexuality.

I'm willing to live and let live with homosexuals. They are unwilling to leave me alone. They want to change my country's constitution; teach homosexualims in schools; join christian youth groups; and get legal preferences (affirmative action, discrimination laws, hate crime laws) that make them a priority class of people in the law. They also want to force me to "accept" homosexuality, which actually means support it; plus use my tax dollars to pay medical bills for their deadly lifestyle. Who is unwilling to live and let live?

[MEGoody]

"Gay people are unhappy but they "choose" to be gay. Why would anyone choose to be unhappy?"

Do you consider alcoholism and drug addiction the result of choices? I wouldn't, and neither of those things make one happy.

"Gay people are recruited. I cannot for the life of me see how someone could talk me into completely switching my sexual attraction."

Perhaps no one attempted to recruit you while you were a teenaged bag of raging hormones.Teenagers are confused sexually. I beg to differ.

"Teenagers are confused sexually. I beg to differ."

Maybe you don't know many teens.

[Trace21230]

"Is something wrong with being gay?"

I'm not sure, I wouldn't judge anyone if they were. Asking someone if they are gay or not on this forum is a cheap shot, because it insinuates that they are and invites all sorts of games from the loving religious types that despise homosexuals.

Besides that, whether or not a particular poster is gay or not really has very little to do with their opinion on an issue. Just because you are or are not gay (or black/latino/female) does not mean you must think in a particular way.

Trace

[MEGoody]

"ask representative Foley from Florida. ask the judge in broward during the florida 2000 recount."

So you do believe homosexuaity is a bad thing. Based on your previous posts, I didn't think you knew right from wrong.

[gcruse]

I see what you're up to here, Gary. Don't you even
dare try to talk me out of my sexual orientation!! ;-)

It's not for me, you understand.   It's for a friend.

[MEGoody]

"Asking someone if they are gay or not on this forum is a cheap shot, because it insinuates that they are and invites all sorts of games from the loving religious types that despise homosexuals."

You, on the other hand, are completely tolerant of those who believe that homosexuality is sin, right?

[diamond6]

What is the source for your numbers i.e. 41 etc?

[smith288]

So your belief in God is based on fear, I take it. Rationality goes out the window when emotions take over. And that's why so many posters are unable to live and let live with homosexuality.

You bet your butt I fear God...I should. But I also try to win Gods heart. Thumbing my nose at him wont. People who do not know Christ have not a clue how this works and I can only hope you are fortunate enough to have this desire to please God.

Who said I am unable to live and let live... Love sinner, hate the sin. Teaching my kids that being gay is fine (which in our religion it is not) should be illegal and on par with standing in front of a public school and saying "Death to Israel"... Its indoctrination and those are the types I am, and always will be, against.

[MHGinTN]

Placemarker

[Scenic Sounds]

It's not for me, you understand. It's for a friend.

Well, my mind's made up. I ain't selling and I ain't buying.

I don't even want to listen! ;-)

[gcruse]

So yes, I've changed my behavior. But I haven't
changed my smoking orientation.

It probably took me fifteen years after I quit smoking
before I stopped dreaming about it.  Eventually, though
it want away.  But if ciggies weren't bad for you and so
damned expensive now, I start up again in a minute!

[longtermmemmory]

Observed an interestig case where a woman late in life "switched sides". She moved in with her new friends. (introduced by the Marriage counselor who though her "latent" homosexuality was the reason for a 45 yearolds absense of sexual desire. It was a support group run by the counselor for older married women comming out of the closet.) The couple had means and two sons. the sons 16 and and 17 went to the father. She got one of the homes.

In six months the money was gone and she was dumped, the house was in forclosure and the counselor had stopped calling. She was "treated" into disaster. No her ex-did not take her back and the sons wanted nothing to do with her. by the time she realized her mistake it was too late.

The ex-husband excersied his right to cure and now has both houses, the eldest son lives in that house. The mother is no-longer a lesbian and moved back out of state with her parents. She still seeking forgiveness from her now adult children.

Its ALL about recruiting the confused and creating confusion.

[longtermmemmory]

you must have me confused with someone else. I have never posted that homosexualy was anything other that morally wrong and a detriment to society.

[gcruse]

So you're saying you can be talked out of your sexual orientation?

No, what he said, read it again, is that homosexuals attempt to recruit young, impressionable people before they are fully formed and that homosexuality can be cured. Note homosexuals obsession with joining youth groups and teaching homosexuality in school.

Sounds like talking to me.