[GOPcapitalist]

Traitors in 1781, 1830 and 1860. Nothing like consistency.

Surely nothing South Carolina did could compare to the following from an avowed Hamiltonian Federalist of New England origin.

"But when and how is a separation to be effected? If, as many think, Federalism (by which I mean the solid principles of government applied to a federate republic,--principles which are founded in justice, in sound morals, and religion, and whose object is the security of life, liberty, and property, against popular delusion, injustice, and tyranny),--if, I say, Federalism is crumbling away in New England, there is no time to be lost, lest it should be overwhelmed, and become unable to attempt its own relief. Its last refuge is New England; and immediate exertion, perhaps, its only hope. It must begin in Massachusetts. The proposition would be welcomed in Connecticut; and could we doubt of New Hampshire? But New York must be associated; and how is her concurrence to be obtained? She must be made the centre of the confederacy. Vermont and New Jersey would follow of course, and Rhode Island of necessity. Who can be consulted, and who will take the lead? The legislatures of Massachusetts and Connecticut meet in May, and of New Hampshire in the same month or in June. The subject has engaged the contemplation of many. The Connecticut gentlemen have seriously meditated upon it. We suppose the British Provinces in Canada and Nova Scotia, at no remote period, perhaps without delay, and with the assent of Great Britain, may become members of the Northern league. Certainly, that government can feel only disgust at our present rulers. She will be pleased to see them crestfallen. She will not regret the proposed division of empire. If with their own consent she relinquishes her provinces, she will be rid of the charge of maintaining them; while she will derive from them, as she does from us, all the commercial returns which her merchants now receive. A liberal treaty of amity and commerce will form a bond of union between Great Britain and the Northern confederacy highly useful to both." - Sen. Timothy Pickering, Jan. 29, 1804

[justshutupandtakeit]

#225 is a great example of GOPcrapitalists willingness to change the subject from South Carolina treason and incipient treason to lunacy in the North. It is also a perfect example of his willingness to distort and lie. Hamilton can be accused of many things some of which might have an element of truth. However, to imply that he EVER supported or encouraged disUnion is a flat out LIE.

In fact, his opposition to Burr was largely based on his understanding that B would do anything to obtain power. Thus, he understood that secession would not be out of the realm of the possible with Burr obtaining more power. While he dispised Jefferson he knew that J. would never support anything like disUnion so he arranged that J become President. Of course, J was so opposed to the concept he ridiculed those who believed in secession in his inaugural speech and later prosecuted Burr for TREASON for trying to split the country. J. recognized secession for what it is, TREASON.

Hamilton lost his life because of the final act of opposition to Burr, preventing him from becoming governor of New York. Secessionists were counting on making B governor then leading NY state out of the Union joining New England in a separate country. Hamilton made sure Burr lost that race and that put an end to the threat of secession but it cost Hamilton his life.

It is difficult to be more mendacious than one implying Hamilton (or Jefferson for that matter) supported secession in ANY way. But I am sure that won't stop you from trying.