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To: wita
Well at least from the power producer standpoint the truth is out on wind energy production, which I am certain has the same government subsidy as other forms of alternative energy. Wind can only be a backup or "alternative" due to its inefficiencies. It doesn't blow all the time. Seems to me it is 35 percent inefficient right out of the box at the point the wind blows, then throw in all the little stuff that the utopians want to overlook, and you have a horribly inefficient system that no one could would or should invest in if it wasn't being paid for by OPM. OPM is a myth, it is never just OPM it's everyones dollars, including the wealth and health of the government the people and the nation itself, and we let congress spend it like there is no tomorrow, and with precious little oversight, all at the whim of folks who think science is making stink bombs in high school.

Why do you use the term inefficient when you mean intermittent? Why are you so offended by a few million dollars in subsidy for wind power but care so little about the subsidies for all other forms of "conventional" power. The latest one I read about is 35 billion dollars for Black Lung benefits? Does this register with you at all?

86 posted on 07/15/2003 6:33:32 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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To: biblewonk
Efficiency because if you need 1,000 watts continuously and the wind only blows 35% of the time then you have to generate nearly 2,900 watts during the time it blows. So your 2,900 watt generator only generates 1,000 watts on average over the long term (or 35% of its capacity).
90 posted on 07/15/2003 6:41:30 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: biblewonk
Wind is intermittent in some places, which is why studies are done as to the most efficient place to put this at present, inefficient system. Enviros don't like it because it kills birds, and I don't particularly like anything, subsidized by government.

I don't believe for one second that even congress is able to hide a 35 billion black lung benefit, when if anything it might be a few million, however, I am listening. Are underground coal miners still getting black lung after years of study, research, and development of safety measures? I would have thought many or most of the older black lung sufferers would by now be long gone.

I lived in an underground coal mining town in Germany in the early sixties. There were quite a few staub lunge sufferers, but still plenty of miners, and that was forty years ago. A little research along the way indicates black lung should have been done away with, but widespread cheating on dust tests, in US underground non-union coal mines says otherwise.
174 posted on 07/16/2003 4:57:55 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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