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Here is what the acolytes of solar power don't want you to know...
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| July 15, 2003
| Boot Hill
Posted on 07/15/2003 3:16:56 AM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: DB
"Cool (pun intended ;-) do they require ground water or does typical soil 15 feet down or so work well?" I don't think you actually need ground water, although I think if you DO have ground-water, the heat exchange efficiency is a little better. Also, as I recall, you don't need to get that deep, I think 2-3 feet is sufficient. There are two styles---straight down (i.e. drill a well and drop a loop of pipe down and fill in), or dig a serpentine trench 2-3 feet deep and of a length to hold the suggested loop size. Obviously, the one you choose will depend on your sub-soil conditions.
I'm sure you have found out that there is LOTS of info available on the subject.
To: Wonder Warthog
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:46:58 AM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: Calamari
Thanks for the info on NiFe batteries.
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:50:54 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who first said "Who crys for the krill?"...)
To: Boot Hill
What are you trying to say? Are you saying you are tied to the public utility grid with an AEI GC-1000? Yes
When your PV array is making more power than you can use, is your excess (and only your excess) put out onto the utility power grid for other to use?
Yes
When you use more power than the PV array can supply, does the utility makes up the difference (and only the difference)?
Yes
If your answer is no to any of these then you need to re-think your last reply.
Not this time. The 2 M2 was just a bonehead mistake, something I surmise you've never done.
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:57:27 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who first said "Who crys for the krill?"...)
To: Boot Hill
Are you sure you're not confusing switching between PV array power and utility grid power and the synchronous transfer of power between PV array and utility grid? Yes
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posted on
07/16/2003 7:58:44 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who first said "Who crys for the krill?"...)
To: Jeff Gordon
I know a start up company that will be producing thin film, flexible solar cells that cost less than 2% of the current panels.Anywhere near Silicon Valley???
Are they HIRING???
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:00:14 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who first said "Who crys for the krill?"...)
To: Calamari
A better large-scale "battery" is to pump water up into a reservoir when excess power generation is available and then have the water flow back down and generate power when demand exceeds the available power. This is done in California I believe.
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:01:07 AM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: null and void
Read #173.
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:03:22 AM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: null and void
Anywhere near Silicon Valley??? Yes. Are they HIRING?
Yes. Do you have PhD in Chemistry?
To: Jeff Gordon
No Ph.D., 30 years industry experience, ~ 6 in photodiodes...
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posted on
07/16/2003 8:36:12 AM PDT
by
null and void
(Who first said "Who crys for the krill?"...)
To: null and void
I will get in contact with my friend who is interviewing with them. If there is anything I can tell you, I will Freep mail you.
To: Jeff Gordon
Thanks!
To: autoresponder; Boot Hill; farmfriend; biblewonk; newgeezer; Carry_Okie; Dog Gone; dalereed; ...
great post!"Why thank you, autoresponder, but Boot Hill deserves all the credit! He's done a fine job of hosting this thread. I just wish I had more time to participate by kabitzing from the sidelines.
This whole subject reminds me of that funny ol liberal tune that Frank Sinatra made famous about the fact that an ant can't move a rubbertree plant. It also talks about a ram can't butt down a dam. It includes a phrase that says "he keeps buttin that dam!"
Like all dreamy liberals, (including the author of the song - I think it was Sammy somebody) it ends up with the phrase (believing in the impossible as usual) "Oops, there goes another billion kilowatt dam!" (incredible, as usual)
Anyway, what got me started on all this was farmfriend pingin me to a thread where biblewonk jumped in with some farfetched claims about tilting at windmills, like Don Quiote, that was clear off the subject and I objected to the whole "I wanna believe the damnest stuff" non-science non-sense that keeps preaching to the "true believers" that flat goes completely against the laws of physics, economics and even nature!!!
It's hard to believe this crappola is creeping into FR like the incursion of GANG-GREEN into our society in general, but it is, sadly. It's all based on liberalism's other concept of "plausible lies" which goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden, so I understand it's part of human nature to wanna believe, wanna be and wanna live in delusion. Oh well... enjoy the argument, for the sake of argument. (grin) (groan) (grimace)
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07/16/2003 9:22:09 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The Endangered Species Act had not saved one specie, but has ruined thousands of American Dreams!!!)
To: BOBTHENAILER
I wanted to ping you to the above, too!
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posted on
07/16/2003 9:24:26 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The Endangered Species Act had not saved one specie, but has ruined thousands of American Dreams!!!)
To: eldoradude
Oh! And I forgot you, eldoradude!
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posted on
07/16/2003 9:26:40 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The Endangered Species Act had not saved one specie, but has ruined thousands of American Dreams!!!)
To: snopercod
And how could I have forgotten snopercod? You need to review the above thread of replies and add your superior wisdom to the discussion, ol friend.
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posted on
07/16/2003 9:32:00 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The Endangered Species Act had not saved one specie, but has ruined thousands of American Dreams!!!)
To: Growler
Easy on New Mexico, it is a beautiful state!
Try central Nevada and western Utah for a nowhere place!
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posted on
07/16/2003 9:48:41 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
To: SierraWasp; Boot Hill
Anyway, what got me started on all this was farmfriend pingin me to a thread where biblewonk jumped in with some farfetched claims about tilting at windmills, like Don Quiote, that was clear off the subject and I objected to the whole "I wanna believe the damnest stuff" non-science non-sense that keeps preaching to the "true believers" that flat goes completely against the laws of physics, economics and even nature!!! ROFL!!
Boot Hill -- Excellent reading!
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posted on
07/16/2003 9:54:34 AM PDT
by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
To: SierraWasp
Thanks a million for this PING. I'm adding this to my favorites because I know the RAT candidate for 04 will be a STRONG proponent of renewables and we can use this to shove it down their throats.
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posted on
07/16/2003 10:12:15 AM PDT
by
BOBTHENAILER
(Rats are showing all the symptoms of severe radiation poisoning)
To: autoresponder; newgeezer
Wind powered generators to power the USA would require a full 25% of the total acreage of America. Also constant and high winds
This is nonsense. Do the math.
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posted on
07/16/2003 10:12:58 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(Spose to be a Chrisssssstian)
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