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To: Miss Marple; nopardons; Defender2
Also, here's something else to ponder from a South African news source...

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South Africa will send experts in dismantling weapons of mass destruction to Iraq as part of Pretoria's bid to avert war, President Thabo Mbeki said in his state of the nation address today.

The intervention follows a visit to Baghdad by Aziz Pahad, the Deputy Foreign Affairs Minister, and comes ahead of today's crucial report-back by United Nations weapons inspectors to the Security Council in New York.

Addressing a special joint sitting of Parliament, Mbeki said it was hoped the UN report-back "will not serve as a signal to some that the time has come to unleash the fury of war".

"As we speak, a number of our citizens are preparing to travel to Iraq. These are the experts who led our country's programme to destroy our nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction, as well as the missiles for the delivery of these weapons in conditions of combat."

The work they had done had resulted in South Africa becoming an international example of best practice in disarmament, he said. South Africa voluntarily disarmed its weapons of mass destruction in the 1990s. Pretoria had proposed to Iraq and to Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary-General that these experts share South Africa's experience with Baghdad, Mbeki said.

"I am pleased to inform the Honourable Members that Iraq has accepted our offer, which we have already discussed with the leadership of the weapons inspectors. "We trust that this intervention will help to ensure the necessary proper co-operation between the United Nations' inspectors and Iraq, so that the issue of weapons of mass destruction is addressed satisfactorily, without resort to war."
- "SA to send its nuclear experts to Iraq: Mbeki," http://www.sabcnews.com/politics/government/0,1009,52970,00.html., February 14, 2003, 11:15


Just what, exactly, did South Africa think its "experts in dismantling" would have to do in an Iraq with no claimed nuke program?

Dare I hazard a guess?

Now remember how often we've been told that South Africa is a model of disarmament, an icon of international oversight programs?

And note that Bush said "Africa" while the press keeps mentioning just Niger...

Now remember that North Korea just made an ass out of international oversight programs, and pretty much blew apart the illusions of the 1994 Agreed Framework of the last administration...

The ego of the folks doing oversight has to be stinging just a little, no, when coupled with a decade of no progress in Iraq?

Now let's return to South Africa for a moment. That country is sacred to the left since they toppled its government. What fun it was when the US delegation had to pull out of the racism conference, it was so rank. Wouldn't it be really embarassing for the world community if say, South Africa turned out to be the supplier Iraq had been hitting on, and still had a stash to sell after all the international overseers declared it clean?

FEBRUARY 11, 1990 : (SOUTH AFRICA : KLERK RELEASES NELSON MANDELA FROM PRISON)

1991 : (SOUTH AFRICA : NELSON MANDELA BECOMES PRESIDENT OF ANC)

JULY 8, 1991 : (SOUTH AFRICA SIGNS ACCESSION TO NPT) Abstract: On 8 July 1991, South African Foreign Affairs Minister Pik Botha signed his country's accession to the NPT. The signing, which had been authorized by South African President F.W. de Klerk, was witnessed by British Foreign Minister Douglas Hurd, who stated he was "delighted South Africa had taken this step". By signing the NPT, South Africa will now have to allow the IAEA to inspect its nuclear facilities.- "PIK BOTHA SIGNS NUCLEAR NONPROLIFERATION TREATY, " SAPA (JOHANNESBURG), 8 July 1991 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

SEPTEMBER 1991 : (SOUTH AFRICA SIGNS NPT) South Africa signed the NPT in September 1991 and agreed to IAEA safeguards at all its nuclear related facilities at that time. South Africa signed the NPT in September 1991 and agreed to IAEA safeguards at all its nuclear related facilities at that time. - "SOUTH AFRICA SAID TO ABANDON PURSUIT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS," THE WASHINGTON POST, 18 October 1991, PP. A23, A26 BY DAVID B. OTTAWAY via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

1991 : (SOUTH AFRICA SIGNS NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY) - "Iraq 'sought African uranium' Britain says Iraq wanted African uranium, "BBC News World Edition, Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK

OCTOBER 1991 : (SOUTH AFRICA'S CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF AEC DENIES THAT SOUTH AFRICA HAD EVER COOPERATED WITH ISRAEL, IRAQ, OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN NUCLEASR TECHNOLOGY) Abstract: According to Waldo Stumpf, Chief Executive of South Africa's Atomic Energy Corporation, South Africa has "abandoned its nuclear weapons program and is seeking instead to become competitive on the world nuclear fuel market within a few years." Stumpf cited change in South Africa's strategic concerns and the prospects for a future black government as factors in his country's decision. Stumpf, however, refused to comment on US intelligence allegations that South Africa had enriched uranium to a weapons-grade level. In an interview in October 1991 Stumpf denied that South Africa had ever cooperated with Israel, Iraq or "any other country" in the field of nuclear technology. ... This came despite 1989 reports from US intelligence sources that South Africa had provided weapons grade HEU to Israel. UN inspectors in Iraq have noted that Iraq had looked into the South African jet-nozzle enrichment process, however, the South African Atomic Energy Corporation was not mentioned among Iraq's suppliers of nuclear technology in the documents seized by the UN. Stumpf stated that South Africa's nuclear program is now geared toward the export of "nuclear fuel and nuclear industry-related technology." South Africa is therefore pursuing laser enrichment processes. South Africa signed the NPT in September 1991 and agreed to IAEA safeguards at all its nuclear related facilities at that time. Stumpf said that South Africa hopes to compete with the US, FRG, France and Japan in world nuclear fuel exports, particularly to Asia and Europe. South Africa is thought to have been capable of producing weapons grade HEU since the early 1980's, according to proliferation specialist Leonard Spector. However, Stumpf declined to comment on the highest level of enrichment attained by South Africa. Stumpf did say that South Africa's two research reactors had run on 90%-plus HEU before being reduced to 45% some years ago. - "SOUTH AFRICA SAID TO ABANDON PURSUIT OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS," THE WASHINGTON POST, 18 October 1991, PP. A23, A26 BY DAVID B. OTTAWAY via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

1993 : (SOUTH AFRICA : KLERK ANNOUNCES DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT CAPABILITY) In 1993 when F. W. de Klerk announced the destruction of South Africa's nuclear weapons capability, he claimed that no foreign assistance was provided for the development of nuclear weapons, but made no mention of South Africa's missile capability. - "Nuclear Scientists Threaten To Reveal Secret Arms Programs: 'Blackmail' Admitted," Sunday Times (Johannesburg), 27 March 1994, pp. 1-2 (original source) , JPRS-TND-94-008, 1 April 1994, pp. 1-2, 1 April 1994 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

1993 : (KLERK & MANDELA SHARE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE) The two [F.W. de Klerk and Nelson Mandela] shared the 1993 Nobel Peace Prize for their role in bringing about a peaceful end to apartheid. - "Ex-S.African first lady murdered," CNN.com, December 5, 2001 Ex-first lady murdered

APRIL 15, 1993 : (SOUTH AFRICAN NUCLEAR & ROCKET SCIENTISTS LAID OFF)

MARCH 1994 late : (SOUTH AFRICA : NUCLEAR & ROCKET SCIENTISTS THREATEN TO RELEASE WEAPONS SECRETS UNLESS PAID COMPENSATION) Abstract: In late March 1994, South African nuclear and rocket scientists threatened to expose secrets about South Africa's arms industry unless they were paid 4.5 million Rand as compensation for being laid off by Advena, a subsidiary of Denel, on 15 April 1993. A spokesman, claiming to represent 16 scientists, said that their disclosures would "prove embarrassing for Armscor [Armaments Corporation of South Africa], Denel [an offshoot of Armscor], and the National Government." In 1993 when F. W. de Klerk announced the destruction of South Africa's nuclear weapons capability, he claimed that no foreign assistance was provided for the development of nuclear weapons, but made no mention of South Africa's missile capability. The [South African nuclear & rocket scientist's] spokesman claimed that Israel had supplied rock[et] technology to South Africa as well as details on how to convert a space launch vehicle into a nuclear ballistic missile. According to the spokesman, the South African space program was originally intended to deliver nuclear weapons using a "clone" of the Israeli two-stage solid-fuel Jericho-2 missile. In 1988 and 1989, two mobile launchers were built and tested at the Armscor proving group at Advena, but were never used. The missile, code named RSA3, only underwent static testing. According to the spokesman, from 1989 to 1992 more than 200 South Africans secretly visited Israel and worked on the missile program. Israel sold technology to South Africa that would make its missiles accurate to within one kilometer by using a system of explosives that could stop the missile at a specific point in flight, allowing it to fall onto the target. - "Nuclear Scientists Threaten To Reveal Secret Arms Programs: 'Blackmail' Admitted," Sunday Times (Johannesburg), 27 March 1994, pp. 1-2 (original source) , JPRS-TND-94-008, 1 April 1994, pp. 1-2, 1 April 1994 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

NOVEMBER 1993 : (SOUTH AFRICA ENTERS INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE US WITH INTENT TO GET US TO RECOMMEND ADMISSION TO THE MTCR) In November 1993, South Africa entered into an agreement with the US on the restriction of missile-related imports and exports, adherence to which would result in a US recommendation for admission to the MTCR As a member of the MTCR, South Africa would have access to technology and markets currently not available. - "Nuclear Scientists Threaten To Reveal Secret Arms Programs: 'Blackmail' Admitted," Sunday Times (Johannesburg), 27 March 1994, pp. 1-2 (original source) , JPRS-TND-94-008, 1 April 1994, pp. 1-2, 1 April 1994 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

MARCH 1994 : (SOUTH AFRICAN COURT BARS NUCLEAR & ROCKET SCIENTISTS FROM DISCLOSING INFORMATION ON ARMSCOR) In late March 1994, the Transvaal Supreme Court issued an order preventing the 16 scientists from disclosing information to the media or unauthorized personnel regarding the "obtaining, marketing, importing, exporting, development, manufacture, maintenance or repair of armaments by Armscor or its subsidiaries" [1]. The decision followed a suit by Armscor claiming that disclosure of the information might harm South Africa's chances of admission to the MTCR [1].- [1] Stephanie Bothma, Business Day (Johannesburg), 30 March 1994, pp. 1-2; in JPRS-TND-94-008, 1 April 1994, p. 3, "Supreme Court Issues 'Gagging Order'." - "Nuclear Scientists Threaten To Reveal Secret Arms Programs: 'Blackmail' Admitted," Sunday Times (Johannesburg), 27 March 1994, pp. 1-2 (original source) , JPRS-TND-94-008, 1 April 1994, pp. 1-2, 1 April 1994 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

AUGUST 26-29, 1994 : (SOUTH AFRICA : ANC WINS ELECTIONS) 1994 : (SOUTH AFRICAN APARTHEID GOVERNMENT ENDS) Under the apartheid government, which was in power until 1994, it had a covert nuclear weapons programme. - "Iraq 'sought African uranium' Britain says Iraq wanted African uranium, "BBC News World Edition, Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK

1994 : (SOUTH AFRICA : KLERK GIVES UP POWER TO MANDELA) F.W. de Klerk gave up power to Nelson Mandela after South Africa's first all-race elections in 1994. - "Ex-S.African first lady murdered," CNN.com, December 5, 2001 Ex-first lady murdered

Oops, getting friendly with China...

AUGUST 1997 : (SOUTH AFRICA SELLS ZIRCONIUM TUBING PLANT TO CHINA, NEWSPAPER REPORT OF ILLEGAL CHINESE WORKERS DISMANTLING PLANT ALERTS PEOPLE TO THE SALE RIGHT AROUND THE TIME CHINA HAD CONCLUDED AN AGREEMENT WITH IRAN TO BUILD A ZIRCONIUM TUBING PLANT THERE) Abstract : In August 1997, South Africa and China concluded a contract for the sale of a plant used to manufacture zirconium tubing at Pelindaba. The deal was not made public until a South African newspaper revealed the presence of "illegal" Chinese technicians dismantling the plant and packing equipment for export to China. The Chinese workers had entered South Africa with business visas, and had been working without the proper employment visas. According to an unidentified member of the South African government, had it not been for the newspaper report, "there might have been nothing to stop this sensitive equipment leaving the country." The South African Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) stated that there are three pieces of equipment, described as CNC [computer numerically controlled] machine tools used to make complex molds, require authorization for export under the Nuclear Suppliers Group dual-use guidelines. The South African government requires an end-user certificate from China before it will authorize the export of the equipment. US officials are concerned that China might ship the South African plant to Iran, because China has signed a contract to build a zirconium tube factory in Iran. - "Is Iran In RSA-China Zirconium Deal?," Jane's Pointer, February 1998, p.1 , 1 February 1998 via - "CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database: Sample Abstracts on South Africa's Nuclear Doctrine," These abstracts were selected from the over 30,000 entries in the CNS Nuclear and Missile Developments Database., http://www.nti.org/e_research/e1_safrica_nuclear.html.

1998 : (FORMER SOUTH AFRICAN LEADER KLERK & WIFE ARE DIVORCED) The de Klerks divorced in 1998 after 39 years of marriage. As her husband rose through the ranks of the ruling National Party during apartheid, his wife also was politically active, eventually leading the party's women's organisation. - "Ex-S.African first lady murdered," CNN.com, December 5, 2001 Ex-first lady murdered

1999 : (GABON HALTS EXPORT OF URANIUM) Gabon ceased exports of [unprocessed uranium oxide] after 1999 - reserves at the largest mine, Mounana, had been depleted. - "Iraq 'sought African uranium' Britain says Iraq wanted African uranium, "BBC News World Edition, Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK

MARCH 2001 : (BBC ALLEGATIONS ARISE THAT IRAQ PURCHASED URANIUM FROM SOUTH AFRICA IN 1988) The BBC television programme Correspondent reported in March 2001 that Iraqi defectors, including a nuclear engineer and an assistant to Saddam Hussain's son Uday, had revealed that Iraq obtained uranium for its nuclear programme from South Africa. The deal had been signed in 1986 and the uranium delivered in 1988 - "Iraq 'sought African uranium' Britain says Iraq wanted African uranium, "BBC News World Edition, Tuesday, 24 September, 2002, 10:59 GMT 11:59 UK SEPTEMBER 1, 2001 : (SOUTH AFRICA : US ENCOUNTERS RACISM CONFERENCE WHICH DEGENERATED INTO A HOSTILE MESS AGAINST THE US AND ISRAEL)  Mideast dominates racism summit

SEPTEMBER 3, 2001 : (SOUTH AFRICA : US PULLS OUT OF UN RACISM CONFERENCE) Israel and the U.S. have pulled out of the U.N. Conference Against Racism after compromise over condemning Israel had failed  U.S. pulls out of racism conference

SEPTEMBER 8, 2001 : (SOUTH AFRICA : UN RACISM CONFERENCE ENDS)  Racism conference ends

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 : (SOUTH AFRICAN SUMMIT)  Southern African summit

SEPTEMBER 10, 2001 : (USA : LEFTWING WEBSITE TRUTHOUT.ORG IS REGISTERED; WOULD PLAY ROLE IN NIGER/IRAQ URANIUM FLAP)

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (911 ATTACKS ON US)

Wow, what a country when former first ladies get "offed"...was it a random murder or something more?

DECEMBER 5, 2001 : (SOUTH AFRICA : FORMER FIRST LADY MARIKE DE KLERKE, WIFE OF SOUTH AFRICAN LEADER WHO HAD ONCE ANNOUNCED THE DESTRUCTION OF THE COUNTRY'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT CAPABILITYIS, IS MURDERED)  CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- The former first lady of South Africa, Marike de Klerk, has been murdered at her home in Cape Town. Police say an autopsy revealed that the 64-year-old former wife of F.W. de Klerk had been stabbed and strangled. Marike de Klerk's body was discovered on Tuesday afternoon, about 30 hours after coroners estimated she had died.The autopsy revealed that the cause of death was strangulation. Police spokesman Wicus Holtzhausen said she had also been stabbed in the back. "The stab wound ... was not the cause of death," he added. De Klerk also had cuts on her arms, which police believe could have been sustained trying to fend off a knife attack. There were no immediate arrests and police did not admit to having any suspects. South Africa has one of the world's highest per-capita murder rates. More than 9,800 homicides were committed in the first half of this year, according to police statistics. De Klerk's body was found about 4p.m. on Tuesday after her hairdresser, arriving for an appointment, became concerned when she did not answer the door. The hairdresser summoned neighbourhood security guards who found the body at the entrance to her bedroom. Nothing was missing from de Klerk's house and the motive for her killing was unknown, Holtzhauzen said. F.W. de Klerk said in a statement released on Wednesday he was devastated and deeply shocked at the circumstances under which his ex-wife had died. "I have learned with great shock and sorrow of the circumstances of the tragic death of my former wife, Marike," he said. "I have been informed that the South African Police Service is conducting a murder inquiry and hope that they bring the person or persons involved to justice as soon as possible." The former president cancelled plans to attend a ceremony to commemorate the centenary of the Nobel Peace Prize in Norway and was heading back to South Africa, his spokesman Dave Steward said. President Thabo Mbeki expressed his condolences Tuesday in a statement and described de Klerk as a "strong, charming and dignified woman." - "Ex-S.African first lady murdered," CNN.com, December 5, 2001 Ex-first lady murdered

JULY 8, 2002 : (SOUTH AFRICA : LEADERS LAUNCH AFRICAN UNION) Leaders launch African Union

AUGUST 24, 2002 : (SOUTH AFRICA : PRIOR TO EARTH SUMMIT, GREENPEACE VIOLATES SECURITY AT BUILDING AT KOEBEG NUCLEAR POWER PLANT) MELKBOSSTRAND, South Africa -- Police have detained up to a dozen Greenpeace environmental protesters who tried to scale a South African nuclear power plant two days before the start of the Earth Summit. Some of the demonstrators climbed a building at the French-designed Koeberg nuclear power plant on the coast near Cape Town on Saturday and strung up two yellow and black banners proclaiming "Nukes out of Africa -- Greenpeace." The nuclear plant is the only one in Africa. Police detained three of the anti-nuclear activists on the 15-metre (50 feet) high concrete building, which pumps water from the sea to cool the twin-domed reactor alongside, leaving another three dangling by wires from the installation. They also seized two inflatable speedboats, each containing three people, that brought the protesters from the Greenpeace ship Esperanza, Greenpeace said. Police declined immediate comment. But the local provincial commissioner expressed shock that Greenpeace could reach the tightly guarded installation from the sea. "We have to take firm action now, this situation is intolerable," commissioner Lennit Max told Reuters, adding the break-in "is a matter of concern for us, we will be looking into that." Greenpeace wants to put pressure on about 100 world leaders at the 10-day summit opening on Monday to agree ways to protect the planet while cutting poverty. It fears that their promises will fall short of real action. "This is Africa's one and only nuclear facility, it should be its last," said Mike Townsley of Greenpeace. "It creates deadly long-lived legacies of nuclear waste. It's a major terrorist threat, it's a proliferation threat and it's uneconomic... At a time when world leaders are meeting in Johannesburg to discuss how to solve the impending environmental crisis, and to meet the need for electricity of the two billion people who don't have any, we want to make the point that their needs cannot be met through nuclear power," he said. During its building, the plant was attacked by the now-ruling African National Congress (ANC) in the 1970s as part of a protest against white minority rule. - CNN.com,  Greenpeace N-plant protest

SEPTEMBER 4, 2002 : (SOUTH AFRICA : EARTH SUMMIT : US SECRETARY OF STATE POWELL IS HECKLED) Powell heckled at Earth Summit  

(* My note : Scores of lefties atended this thing from all over the world ...)

33 posted on 07/15/2003 3:03:04 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
You know, that information on South Africa should really be a separate post. You have a viable theory there, in my opinion.

Any thoughts as to why Mrs. De Klerk was murdrered? A warning? To keep her from spilling some information?

34 posted on 07/15/2003 3:09:55 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: piasa
You are on to something. Great work!
43 posted on 07/15/2003 7:10:33 AM PDT by windchime
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To: piasa
Piasa check this out: World Uranium production

South Africa is in the Top 10...

49 posted on 07/15/2003 1:35:51 PM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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