THAT URANIUM STORY

NRO ^ | 7/14/2003 | David Frum

[Jim Robinson]

Guess he doesn't believe me that Bush is not taking my calls.

[Joe Driscoll]

Are you intentionally pushing the envelope of civility? You are trying my patience and I am not even involoved.

[ovrtaxt]

Yes, I'm thankful for what we have, in the big picture. But we are settling for less. If the Republicans didn't capitulate so easily on BIG spending bills, in the name of the 'new tone', we might be much better off. What's the point of spraying billions all over Africa? Or getting involved in Liberia? Or buying pills for seniors? To get the ever elusive black or gay or AARP vote? Wouldn't it be easier to abolish the IRS and become politically immortal that way? It ain't brain surgery to me. Why then don't they do it?

[Jim Robinson]

I have no idea. Wish they weren't doing it, but I couldn't talk them out of it. Sorry. But, even if I am unhappy about these things, I'm still not willing to surrender to the Democrats. I still want to replace those liberal baby murdering judges with conservatives and that's much more important to me than all of Africa and all the tea in China. And I know that the only alternative is to defeat Bush and reinstall the Democrats. I know that the Democrats offer zero of what I want so I cannot allow that to happen. Sorry.

[hchutch]

The courts have to come first on the domestic front. We're literally at a point where, as Southack has said elsewhere, we need to decide just how far we are willing to go to get more importnad objectives accomplished.

[ovrtaxt]

I can't say I disagree. As long as they go through with good nominations, and the Senate grows a pair.

I guess we have to take what we can get in the short term. I just pray that we don't end up like some irrelevant Western European socialist entity in the process.

Maybe I'm being too idealistic and theoretical. But I still feel betrayed to a great extent by the government power freaks which have supplanted the true conservatives in the party.

[OWK]

The cycle has to be broken sooner or later. Might as well do it now while we have a popular Republican president and a majority in the Congress.

That's just the point.

By expressing a willingness to "pay any price", you end up perpetuating the cycle... not breaking it.

[OWK]

Are you intentionally pushing the envelope of civility?

Civility? No.

Jim's a big boy. He's passionate, I'm passionate.

We disagree about something important.

He can take care of himself.

You are trying my patience and I am not even involoved.

Bummer.

[OWK]

Wherever there's a butt in need of smoochin...

[OWK]

All he said he'd do is sign it if it reaches his desk.

Hooray.

What a guy.

[Miss Marple]

Whenever there's a back in need of stabbin...

[OWK]

Whenever there's a back in need of stabbin...

That cloak-and-dagger back stabbing stuff is your schtick toots.

I don't have a secret back room to discuss who's dissent will be allowed, and who will be banned.

I'm standing right here facing you.

My objections are stated honestly and openly.

To his credit, Jim stood toe-to-toe rather than whine about why I'm here.

[bmwcyle]

As for electing a Libertarian President, Senator, and Congressmen, it will happen when the majority of Americans throw snow balls in hell. Libertarians want a new system when we can hold these so call Conservatives to standards if we were not split on these Libertarian issues.

[arete]

Mistakes were made. I can remember the last President that used that line to justify doing nothing. Bush is the executor in charge of the CIA, FBI, DIA, etc. and letting them put him in a hole such as he claims they did, and not doing anything but actually supporting them is____*.

GW must have wanted this crazy war pretty darn bad to have to fabricate so much information. Now the typical blame game will go on and on. All the bots are now saying it was someone else's fault -- the UK or France of anyone. Some think that old Saddam was so darn smart that he just magically made all those WMD disappear overnight. Man, you have to be practically brain dead to believe some of the crap coming out of the administration now. I guess the latest plan is try to keep everyone confused by simply claiming everything and being responsible for nothing. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Richard W.

[Miss Marple]

Well, your preferred tactic is to imply that anyone who sides with Jim in this disagreement must be "butt smoochin."

You apparently think that you have the corner on what is perfect conservatism, you are doing everything you can to get people to jump ship from the President, and you are using the vulgar tactics of the rat trolls we routinely battle on this forum.

You are interested in causing arguments and disruption. The title of this post is "That Uranium Story," which you have not addressed at all. Instead, you are attacking Jim and those who support Jim, and those who support the President.

You can call me names, act patronizing, insult the President and anyone else you can think of. One fact remains:

You are using the tactics, the words, and the complaints of the democrats, and you are actively atttempting to help them achieve their goal.

[OWK]

Strangely enough, I haven't mentioned Libertarians.

I just want to know why republicans are acting like democrats.

And why you guys keep excusing it.

[Dane]

I just want to know why republicans are acting like democrats.

And why you guys keep excusing it

Gee, I didn't know you hated the tax cuts so much or Bush's judicial appointees, or Bush's killing Kyoto and the International court, or signing a PBA ban when it reaches his desk.

JMO, but it seems that is you who is looking for any excuse to throw rocks at Bush, like the demos do.

[OWK]

Well, your preferred tactic is to imply that anyone who sides with Jim in this disagreement must be "butt smoochin."

Actually, it wasn't "siding with Jim in an argument" that drew the accusation of butt-smooching.

It was your butt-smooching that drew the accusation of butt-smooching.

You didn't offer an argument at all.

In fact, you can't stand dissent of any kind. Anyone who offers the least dissent from the party line is shouted down by harpies like yourself, and illicits a chorus of whispers in Jim's ear about "acting just like democrats, and helping them achieve their goal".

But the fact is that YOU, and people like YOU, who continuously encourage, rationalize, and excuse democrat-like behavior in republicans are the ones "acting like democrats".

I challenge you openly and honestly.

Not with butt-smooching, and secret back-room whisper campaigns.

Don't like it?

Do what you ususally do.

Lobby to silence it with a banishment.

[OWK]

Gee, I didn't know you hated the tax cuts so much

You mean the ones that went to people who didn't pay taxes?

Yeah.... they were... Uhhh... great and stuff.