Posted on 07/14/2003 8:59:22 PM PDT by Utah Girl
Do you have to win this badly?
I didn't continue to repeat it... when you went into attack mode, you used that statement to accuse me of things I wasn't saying. I defended myself against those attacks and those attacks only. I even said that I would have corrected the statement if you weren't too busy trying to win the game with a single swing of the bat.
Even now, you won't accept the win with any graciousness because it is more important to appear the injured poster and continue the attack. That must be because I'm still standing, and you have admitted that this is winner take all.
Interesting. I haven't really noticed that taking place (not that I've been paying that much attention, I admit), but what I have noticed is a LOT of truly ancient Freepers, people who registered all the way back in '97 and '98 and rarely, if ever, post these days, coming out of the woodwork to attack Bush now that the "climate is right." That's why I say these people have always been around. These are self-proclaimed "real conservatives" (read: hard, HARD right) who always hated Bush from the moment he started his campaign (they probably wanted someone more like Pat Buchanan), but just didn't feel comfortable posting their hate once we all rallied around Bush due to Florida 2000. But now they see an opening, and three full years of pent-up venom are now being puked out all over FR.
Pretty soon they'll have nothing left to say, and will disappear again.
However, the long-time anti-Bush conservatives are not reluctant to use them as proof that "Bush is losing the base."
No argument there!
*coughFABcough* :)
I wish I knew how to do art work on the computer. Darn!
Even that is false. You said that Congress was to blame, not Bush - and I demonstrated that Bush shared in the blame by promoting these items and not using the power of his veto pen to block them. Pointing out the shortcomings of your argument is hardly accusing somone of saying things they weren't saying.
It's not that I have to win - it's that you refuse to be honest about your own misstatements. And, since you are showing no signs of altering that trait, I won't bother any further. You can distort the debate one more time and get the last word.
A biddie, yes, but I refuse to be an old biddie!
Great post
"Failure"???
Do rational, clear-headed, circumspect individuals jump to conclusions without all the facts?
Do they even define "failure" the way the illogical, and/or agenda-driven would define it?
No, they don't. So --- other than others with the same sort of emotion-driven predjudices as you have, just whose thinking do you hope to influence with such intemperate, knee-jerk statements?
Get with the big picture
The underlying problem that needs to be *cured* in this country are the hearts and minds of the people who vote for those who believe as they do (pro-abortion, social welfare spending, etc., etc.). That will take time.
For instance, Rush has been working on that problem for over 15 years. He was the pioneer that "took all the arrows", but he blazed the trail and has had a LOT of success. Just look at how many conservative talk shows, web sites and other media outlets we now have. Incrementally, minds are being changed.
So, focus your energy on "the problem". Change their minds. Stop being side-tracked / distracted by the symptoms that the problem causes. That's not logical. Help cure the problem. Be constructive.
In the meantime, we must stand together, and refuse to allow *their choices for public office* to win at the ballot box.
*Their choices* will be "DemocRATS".
That's ALL you need to know to stop them --- IF and UNTIL they can be *persueded* to make better, less self-centered, choices on their own.
It is literally a matter of life and death which party we allow in power.
There is ONE PARTY that has a reputation (both here and abroad), for being weak on crime and against a strong national defense.
Do you think that the enemies of America, within America, will vote for GWB and other Republicans for the House and Senate in 2004, or any other time????
Do you think that CIA or State Department officials like Robin Raphel (who said it would be "fascistic" to purge too many Baathists from the new Iraqi government) will be voting for GWB or ANY Republican?
Do you think that the terrorists and the anti-war Marxist sympathizers won't pull out all the stops trying to put the DemocRATS back in power?
It is NOT SAFE for those who love freedom to vote DemocRAT (even in local elections).
It is NOT SAFE for those who love freedom to sit at home and not vote (even in local elections).
It is NOT SAFE for those who love freedom to vote for a third party candidate because the result will be a DemocRAT in the White House appeasing terrorists and other enemies of America again.
Bottom line?
Those who don't go all out to see to it that G.W.Bush is re-elected will be aiding and abetting America's enemies -- either indirectly, by not voting, or directly, by voting DemocRAT / Third Party.
Those who aid and abet America's enemies by allowing DemocRATS to get back in power will be the recipients of the contempt that they will so richly deserve.
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