THAT URANIUM STORY

NRO ^ | 7/14/2003 | David Frum

[OWK]

there is an obvious concerted effort by the anti-Bush people to post as much as is possible, and to disrupt threads.

She's makin a list.. she's checkin it twice...

[Modernman]

You and the Sore-Loserman group have a lot in common

I, for one, like being in a position where the GOP holds the White House and both houses of Congress. Being in the minority pary can be spiritually liberating because you don't actually have to do anything- you can spend all your time critisizing the other party. Being in power draws all the complainers and Monday-morning-quarterbacks in your own party out of the woodwork.

[Miss Marple]

Keep it up. You are not deterring me one bit.

You are doing the work of the DNC, whether intentionally or purposefully. You are attempting to shave support from the President, and you are using the tactics of DU.

[Miss Marple]

The above post should read "whether unintentionally or purposefully."

[joesbucks]

OWK is what I would consider a hard liner. Fine. But what I have found with him is that he has maintained his hard line whether Bush or Clinton on the same topics. And you know what. I don't agree with his position. But he has remained true to his core beliefs and positions.

I do believe that sometimes you go for short gains and that sometimes there is a roll for government when others believe there is not one.

But I haven't seen OWK waiver. What he is doing is holding feet to the fire based on what he sees are the needs of the country. Some don't want that to happen when certain people are in certain government posts. And that is to a point sad.

[Miss Marple]

Hurry up. I am waiting for your reply.

[Area51]

Nice analogy.

Here I can play too. You must support Hillarycare because your Hero has been trumpeting it for months in the WhiteHouse.

You must agree with Maxine Waters, because she likes sending Millions to Africa for aids too.

And you must be in bed with Diane Finestien because she too wants to see to it that the AWB gets reauthorized.

NONE of which is believe in. So you go ahead and blow that horn. The Democrat label seems more in line with your beleives.

And one other thing dearie. Don't try to put words in my mouth. You posted: Your gripe is that more people support President Bush than whatever candidate you would deem an acceptable alternative. Is something I never wrote or posted. I voted for the man. So if you are going to run around and attack folks who dare question the wisdom of King Dubya atleast try doing it with some semblence of truth, okay?

[OWK]

Keep it up. You are not deterring me one bit.

You are doing the work of the DNC, whether intentionally or purposefully. You are attempting to shave support from the President, and you are using the tactics of DU.

Maybe you and Jethro can meet-up out by the cee-ment pond, and do some double-naught spyin ta'figgur out how to save the world from them support-shavers and the like.

[dirtboy]

So don't accept them. Find a candidate that holds your views, or run yourself.

There is, of course, another path - which is to try and restrain certain RINO impulses in the GOP, which I am trying to do. One only needs to look at black Democrats to see the perils of blind party loyalty. Conservatives need not exile themselves to a similar political plantation within the GOP.

[OWK]

Thanks.

You pay me a greater compliment than you know.

[MEGoody]

"There is, of course, another path - which is to try and restrain certain RINO impulses in the GOP, which I am trying to do."

Good luck with that, too. But since the goal of a politician is to get elected, you've got a tough row to hoe.

[Miss Marple]

Holding feet to the fire is a phrase that I care never to hear again, because it is used to excuse every undermining and destructive political post I see on this forum.

If you want to change the direction of the party and the country, do something POSITIVE. Write and lobby your Congress and legislatures, donate money to groups that support your agenda, praise those things you like about an officeholder, argue your position with intelligence and with courtesy.

But to come on the forum and accuse the President of being a socialist and actively work to shave off support into a third party is actively campaigning against the President. There is no other way to look at it.

[OWK]

Good luck with that, too. But since the goal of a politician is to get elected, you've got a tough row to hoe.

And the goal of electing a politician, is to have them represent your views.

Not your opposition's views, because that's what he thinks is necessary to get elected.

[dirtboy]

Where you and I differ is that you put 100% of the blame on the President. It doesn't belong there. It belongs with the House and Senate.

Please show me where I have put 100% of the blame on Bush. Hint: I haven't. But Truman had a sign on his desk. The buck stops here. Apparently you don't think that Bush should bear culpability for proposing massive spending increases and refusing to wield his veto pen.

[Eva]

The uranium story is a red herring, designed by the Democrats to distract from the Bush trip to Africa and his very awe inspiring speech. The Democrats are scared to death that Bush will win over more Blacks.

I urge everyone who has not read Bush's speech to read it. Post it here as often as possible, until everyone reads and it gets the attention that it deserves.

[OWK]

Holding feet to the fire is a phrase that I care never to hear again...

I'm shocked...

Shocked I tell ya..

[Dane]

But I haven't seen OWK waiver. What he is doing is holding feet to the fire based on what he sees are the needs of the country. Some don't want that to happen when certain people are in certain government posts. And that is to a point sad

That's all wel and fine joe, but OWK doesn't offer anything constructive how to do that electorally.

He's shouts from the wilderness.

I will ask OWK the same question that I have asked other "pure" conservatives.

Who is OWK's perfect Presidential candidate. Then we will discuss that candidates strengths and weakneses and his electoral chances.

I am surmising that I will hear "crickets" from OWK, since it seems all he wants to do is tear down everything and add nothing constructive.

[Refinersfire]

"As to the Dept. of Education Bill, what in particular in the Dept. of Education would you reduce or eliminate so that spending could be reduced?"

ALL of it.. as I have yet to find anyone, inside or outside of DC show legal proof to me, that Dept. has Legal Standing in regards to the Constitution or Bill of Rights.

[dirtboy]

Where you and I differ is that you put 100% of the blame on the President. It doesn't belong there. It belongs with the House and Senate.

However, to promote the concept that conservatives should offer uncritical support to Bush is a path to political impotence. Just ask blacks what voting 93% for Dems has gotten them.

[OWK]

But to come on the forum and accuse the President of being a socialist and actively work to shave off support into a third party is actively campaigning against the President. There is no other way to look at it.

Subtle hint translater:

Dear Jim, This guy says stuff I don't like.

Please make him go away.