THAT URANIUM STORY

NRO ^ | 7/14/2003 | David Frum

[Miss Marple]

And why is MY insinuation worse than dirtbooy's, who made the accusation about a "pack?" Care to explain that one?

[MEGoody]

"Clearly somebody has to."

Yes, and for some reason you feel that unless someone (e.g. President Bush) does things your way, he is not a man of integrity.

Hate to tell you this, but that kind of comes across as a "Barbara Streisand" kind of attitude.

[dirtboy]

What do you mean 'no longer'. When did they ever?

I know that 1994 seems like eons ago, but the GOP DID win both houses in that election because they ran on conservative values, not pandering. If the GOP wishes to run on pandering, voters will tend to vote for the Dems, because if they want pandering the Dems are much better at it.

[cibco]

"I think a bit of Walter Mondale has rubbed off on you, IMO."

Now THAT'S being cruel...

[MEGoody]

"The department of Education Bill for one. The Tax cut makes two."

A tax cut is a spending bill????? LOL That sounds more Democratic than Republican.

As to the Dept. of Education Bill, what in particular in the Dept. of Education would you reduce or eliminate so that spending could be reduced?

[MEGoody]

"I voted for him DESPITE that, not because of it."

Well, you knew it was a hot button for him, so why whine about it?

[dirtboy]

Yes, and for some reason you feel that unless someone (e.g. President Bush) does things your way, he is not a man of integrity.

I do understand that some compromise is necessary within the GOP to hold it together. But Bush has gone way beyond that with his pandering and spending. He has completely gutted the fiscal conservatism that the GOP established last decade.

[Area51]

When you hand out money to people that don't pay any tax yeah I'd damned sure call that a spending bill.

Or Welfare, whichever you prefer.

[OWK]

Yes, and for some reason you feel that unless someone (e.g. President Bush) does things your way, he is not a man of integrity.

Integrity and principle coupled together, should yield conservative results for someone claiming to be a conservative.

He spends more money than democrats, and openly advocates socialist legislation.

Hmmmm...

[MEGoody]

"Were you SURPRISED by that? He talked about that when he was campaigning for President. And this is a GOOD thing?"

Prescription drugs for needy elderly? I'd prefer to see private charities take care of that, but they aren't.

Nevertheless, no one should be surprised that Bush promoted a prescription drug plan. That was part of his campaign platform.

[1rudeboy]

[N]nice job with formulating a well constructed argument.

Isn't an argument supposed to propose an alternative? I'm at #115, and I haven't seen squat.

[dirtboy]

Well, you knew it was a hot button for him, so why whine about it?

Mainly because he abandoned any attempt at reforming Medicare and containing costs.

[OWK]

A tax cut is a spending bill????? LOL

Unless you believe in the magic money fairy (and perhaps you do if this conversation is any indication) tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes is actually an expenditure.

Even people who are really bad at math can grasp that one.

[swany]

Yes, quantity is important. Even as Republicans, we have still have diverse ideas and act upon them accordingly. Sending a STRONG majority of Republicans to congress sends a STRONG message. It states you do not like the legislation that is being passed by the slimmest of majority votes.

[MEGoody]

"Which one was that? This one."

Uh, which one? The tax credit that is still languishing in Congress?

[malakhi]

Ping.

[OWK]

Yes, quantity is important.

Sorry, but a congress full of republicans who act like democrats is of no use to me.

[eyespysomething]

My congressman, Charlie Norwood, voted against the Medicare bill saying he wasn't elected in 94 by his constituents to increase the size and largesse of government:

“I don’t believe that I, or anyone in the Class of ’94, was elected to burden the taxpayer with another open-ended entitlement. I actually believe we were elected to fight to the last to stop this type of entitlement. That is why I am voting ‘no’ today.”
- Charlie Norwood, June 26, 2003

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ga09_norwood/6_26_03hr1.html

[carton253]

No, the President isn't the one who has gutted it. You give the President too much power. If the fiscal conservatism was gutted, it was gutted in committee and also during the votes. It was further gutted in conference.

The GOP changes since 1994 can't be laid at the President's feet. It needs to be laid where it belongs. At the feet of the Repubican Senators who, for some unknown reason, do not realize that Tom Daschle is no longer in charge.

[OWK]

That's what a republican should do.