[Paleo Conservative]

On the other hand, watching the Pubs give away the country through amnesties or open borders would be just as disastrous

There hasn't been an amnesty yet. The Bush administration's trial balloons in 2001 got shot down. The reason is opposition by Republicans in the House. Perhaps you would prefer Republicans stay at home so DemocRATS can elect a majority in Congress and a DemocRAT president so we would definitely have have an amnesty agreement with Mexico.

[JackelopeBreeder]

I'm thinking beyond 2004 to 2008. I'm fairly certain the Dems are, too. They know that barring a miracle, like catching Dubya naked with Yassir Arafat, they don't stand much of a chance of winning '04. Their current candidates are goofs. They're positioning themselves for '08 when Dubya is no longer a factor -- and I really don't see any strong candidates on the Republican side yet to step into Dubya's boots.

So the Dems put the pressure on during this election cycle, something really divisive like the border issue. Let's say the Republicans cave to the pressure and make promises to the Mexicans now -- and yes I said Mexican, not Latino. That's where the biggest block of votes is.

So there's talk of amnesties, unlimited guest workers, increased family reunification, ad nauseum and etc. After the election the House and Senate kill that nonsense, but you have a big chunk of voters who rightly feel like they got stiffed by the Republicans. Payback would really suck next time around.

In 2008 we'd have a witches' coven led by the Hildabeest moving into the fancy real estate along Pennsylvania Avenue.