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Man Arrested After Allegedly Throwing Dog Into Brick Wall
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Posted on 07/14/2003 1:18:20 PM PDT by chance33_98
Man Arrested After Allegedly Throwing Dog Into Brick Wall
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Tulsa - A Tulsa man faces animal cruelty charges after allegedly throwing a puppy into a brick wall after a domestic disturbance.
Police say 18-year-old Joseph Minter was arrested after a witness says he threw the six-week-old puppy against the wall while in a "fit of rage".
The incident happened Saturday. Minter was taken into custody and faces a felony complaint of cruelty to animals. Bond was set at four-thousand dollars.
The dog, who officials say was vomiting blood, was reportedly taken to a veterinarian and is said to be alive.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Oklahoma
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To: KneelBeforeZod
...lots of serial killers first started killing/maiming animals. none of them started with abortions. You're right of course.
However, why isn't the abortionist a 'Serial Killer'?
You know what the answer is - its all perspective, isn't it?
The abortionist CAN'T be a serial killer - Why? Because we choose to call them "Doctors", and well, its a LEGAL procedure.
Hmm...
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posted on
07/14/2003 2:33:49 PM PDT
by
jonno
To: KneelBeforeZod
...you're preaching to the choir anyway. And yes we're preaching to the choir.
But what the h&ll is the choir singing - if at all...
Sorry. I'm frustrated, and taking it out here...
Regards,
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posted on
07/14/2003 2:37:16 PM PDT
by
jonno
To: wideawake
(2) Yet, when worse violence is directed toward an unborn child, its not considered newsworthy and is unmentionable.....perhaps gruesome sensationalism is not the smart way to channel your message.
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posted on
07/14/2003 2:37:41 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: KneelBeforeZod
lots of serial killers first started killing/maiming animals. none of them started with abortions.An abortion is a full-blown murder - it isn't beginners' stuff like hurting defenseless beasts.
There are many serial killers in this country who specialize in abortion and they get paid well for it.
As for preaching to the choir - FR itself is an elaborate exercise in preaching to the choir, and it's a good thing too.
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posted on
07/14/2003 2:37:50 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: GrandMoM
The point isn't the gruesomeness
per se - it's the disjunction. People should be asked why they blanch at violence against puppies but not against babies.
If the smart way to spread the message is by throwing a fig leaf over what abortion really is, I don't see how that works. We can either call it what is or acquiesce in the antiseptic terminology of "procedure".
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posted on
07/14/2003 2:40:46 PM PDT
by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: GrandMoM; Tabitha Soren
BUT, find your use of such barbaric detail to defend it offensive on a thread that does not address abortion BRING ON THE GORE AND I MEAN IT IN ALL SINCERITY. (Broooooooother, kids see worse in video games. We have at least as bad in the Bible.)
Paging Tabitha! Paging Tabitha!
To: wideawake
"...in order to have his own son's skull crushed and limbs torn off... no public outcry..."What you said.
A hundred times over.
To: chance33_98
This reminded me of the guy here in FL who bashed his dog's head against a tree because he thought the dog was homosexual.
To: jonno
30-40 Million dead from abortion, yet we get all teary-eyed about a puppy - sheesh! It's a sad comment that a (non fatal) attack to man's best friend drums up no less outrage than to a man. Animals used to be viewed as property, not as little gods. An animal cruelty like this would get the person sent to the looney bin to be treated, not to the schools of crime we sometimes call jail or prison.
To: The Red Zone
BRING ON THE GORE AND I MEAN IT IN ALL SINCERITY. (Broooooooother, kids see worse in video games. We have at least as bad in the Bible.).... useless dribble! what good do you do for these priceless babies of abortion.... some example you set with your white trailer trash mouth,
.... either grow up or go back to your demonic threads.
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posted on
07/14/2003 3:14:17 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: GrandMoM
Such violence goes on behind the immaculate walls of these abortuaries and you don't want anyone to (gasp) TELL about it?
To: GrandMoM
You missed the point of his posting. A very young puppy is thrown against the wall and the guy is arrested, and a public outcry is made. On the other hand, if there is an abortion........ nothing...........
It is satire, and very, very very sad irony at the different response to the two situations.
As to it making you uncomfortable.............GOOD! it should! If it is not addressed with graphic detail it is made nice and neat with terms like: "mass of tissue" "products of conception" "Blastocyst" etc, ad nauseum.
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posted on
07/14/2003 3:51:58 PM PDT
by
ibheath
To: GrandMoM
With all due respect, there are people who need to learn those disturbing details in order to snap out of the liberal indoctrination.
For example, when I was a college student, I was 100% pro-choice, since for me, the word abortion evoked images of a blood clot being removed from the uterus. It took an abortion film to wake me up out of stupor.
The film I watched was a grainy black/white ultrasound tape of an abortion (20-week-old fetus). The little girl fought a great battle against the vacuum tube, but at the end, she lost. As soon as the vacuum tube was introduced in the uterus, she swam away and pushed herself against the uterine wall farthest from the vacuum tube, changing position as the tube chased her.
As another poster noted, first one leg, then another, then her little arms and her body were caught by the powerful vacuum tube. Eventually, the skull crusher (tongs) was introduced and finished the job.
That abortion film will stay in my mind till the day I die, the same way those Nazi concentration camp pictures will stick to my memory forever.
The first thing I did after watching the abortion film was to check the local yellow pages to see if those abortions were performed in my area. To my bewilderment, abortion clinics were advertising abortions for pregnancies up to 24 weeks!
To: george wythe
Went to the
link you provided. I was struck by the title of
FAQ #5:
"Can I Still Have Other Children ?"
(emphasis mine)
Incredible...
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posted on
07/14/2003 4:22:12 PM PDT
by
jonno
To: ibheath
As to it making you uncomfortable.............GOOD! it should! ....why is this good? I am anti-abortion?????If it is not addressed with graphic detail it is made nice and neat with terms like: "mass of tissue" "products of conception" "Blastocyst" etc, ad nauseum.
I work in a hospital and have stopped many abortions but not with your hateful tactics. Your just adding fuel to the fire
....I'll tell you what is nauseum, it's you cynical hatemongers and I'll have nothing to do with any of you.
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posted on
07/14/2003 4:36:14 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
To: GrandMoM
How is it that you call me a hatemonger?? Because I speak the truth? Did I advocate counseling a woman contemplating abortion with those words?? NO, You just assumed that was my intent.
My objection to your original post was that you seem to find the truth... distasteful... I am not asking you to use those words.
I will say that when I was younger, I was pro-abortion. Why? Because I did not understand the HORROR of abortion and what it did to a human being.
If we cannot move the debate to the reality of what abortion does and who it is done too, we will NEVER convince the fence-sitters. Barring a personal experience with the Prince of Peace, the diehard liberals are not going to change their stance. Do you know why a partial-birth abortion ban has support in this evenly divide country?
Because the DETAILS were revealed to the public. That outraged even the center-left. Faced with the HORROR of that gruesome procedure, the only rational response was to come out against it.
I hope you will not take this posting personally, as it is not an attack on you. If I have offended you, I apologize for that. God bless you for the work you do in persuading some against abortion.
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posted on
07/14/2003 4:54:03 PM PDT
by
ibheath
(Standing on the Rock of my salvation.)
To: GrandMoM
I'll tell you what is nauseum, it's you cynical hatemongers and I'll have nothing to do with any of you. I fear that I may fall into your definition of "hatemonger".
Please consider However: Christ, knowing the heart of each person he dealt with, did so accordingly. The woman at the well, the woman to be stoned; each he dealt with gently - knowing their heart. When he drove the moneychangers from the temple, he knew their hearts also. And with them, there was NO gentleness, only the whip.
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.
(Ecclesiastes 3)
My point is it is not always appropriate to be peaceful in our words - or our graphics...
Regards,
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posted on
07/14/2003 4:54:16 PM PDT
by
jonno
To: jonno
Well put.
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posted on
07/14/2003 4:57:24 PM PDT
by
ibheath
(Standing on the Rock of my salvation.)
To: chance33_98
Dogs and bastards.
To: jonno
"LOVE begets LOVE and HATE begets HATE"!!!!
....Look in your bible, you'll find that in there too!!
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posted on
07/14/2003 5:18:46 PM PDT
by
GrandMoM
("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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