Trouble on the Right? Bush and His Conservative Base

Toogood Reports ^ | July 14, 2003 | W. James Antle III

[CWOJackson]

Oops, their agenda is so similar I get the two confused. They even use so many of the same accusations, phrases...it's almost as if they were working together.

[dfrussell]

At this point, I think Bush 41 was better than Bush 43... and I voted for Perot.

And I'm not sure if Hillary would be worse than another 4 years of what Bush 43 has been handing out and, yes, I'll explain the comment.

Bush 43 is using his support from the right and the "benefit of the doubt" to slide us further into socialism. Consider for a moment if a President Hillary would have been able to increase the budget of the DOE as did Bush 43, propose another illegal aliens in free and possibly get it, "campaign reform" that violates the Bill of Rights or creation of another massive entitlement program that almost no-one seems to want?

What we are looking at is incrementalism at its finest. At least with a President Hillary, the Republicans in the House and Senate would be obligated to pretend to care... thus giving us smaller steps into socialism. With Bush 43, they're simply dropping trou and looking for a convenient desk and possibly a little lubrication in the form of goodies for the home district a la The Honerable Robert "Sheets" Byrd... and honestly, are there any roads left in West Virginia that don't have Sheets name on them?

I'm tired of giving Bush 43 the benefit of the doubt and hoping he delivers, I'm tired of watching our borders ignored and H1Bs being imported while Americans are unemployed and I'd rather vote for a loser 3rd party than go the "Once more please, Sir!" route.

[CWOJackson]

"And, his WH counsel, Alberto Gonzales, will be another Souter, O'Conner, moderate-lefty nominee to the USSC if Bush is allowed to 'go there'."

See, that's completely todd.

[Zack Nguyen]

I'm sorry, I do not understand your response.

[ApesForEvolution]

No, you're right. He's worse that I thought he would be when I voted for him though. I anticipated that the RAT would take us down the wrong path very quickly and that Bush would do his best to avoid the path, if indeed not start rolling up the path a bit. The latest lurches to the left are what I feared.

[Joe Hadenuf]

You're paranoid.

That description is an understatement.

but painting those who are concerned with certain aspects of the Administration's re-election strategy or policy decisions is ludicrous. Nobody respects mindless goose-steppers.

Thank you for that bit of common sense.......

[Catalonia]

Flee the Party (vs. working within it to persuade individuals to be like minded) and vote for a third party.

A couple of things:

1) Explain how I can effectively work within the party, and I'm not talking about B.S. tactics like writing a litter to your representative, and I might. Maybe you could tell me abou the Republican Liberty Caucus.

2) Why have a 'grass-roots' conservative forum like Free Republic if we must always work through the Republican Party for change?

[cardinal4]

All very valid points. But President Hillary would be the end of the Republic as we know it. Can you imagine her ideolgy coupled with the ability to issue Executive Orders? As far as I know, and could be wrong, Bush's only exec orders are recsinding Billyjeffs. Bush 43 will always be better than Kerry, or Hillary. Thats my opinion.

[Joe Hadenuf]

What are you seriously going to do to keep the limited government types happy?

Those types should be thrown out of the party immediately!

Should I say it???

Better.........*******SARCASM*********

[CWOJackson]

todd is an ex-freeper who used to do the exact same thing. He would make a post out of any article, regardless the source and credibility, that brought discredit to the President. He posted every DU and fringe party talking point that would anger single issue voters. He seemed hell bent on bringing dissention and distrust the the administration in any way he could. And when challenged he would simply reply that he supported President Bush, he voted for President Bush...he was just holding the President's feet to the fire.

I'll give him credit, at least he had the courage to outright call the President a socialist instead of just insinuating it all the time like the ape.

[Brian S]

Bttt... What you said!

[ApesForEvolution]

I don't know that I have or will ever identify a '3rd party' candidate that I would vote for, but I certainly am somewhat open-minded about it. I can tell you this - I have zero enthusiasm to rally the troops for the primaries or general election this go around. Magnify that across the conservative base and Bush II looks like Bush I (termer).

[CWOJackson]

When Joe praises your common sense it's best to get an immediate appointment with a mental health professional.

[Joe Hadenuf]

I'll second that bump......

[CWOJackson]

"I have zero enthusiasm to rally the troops for the primaries or general election this go around."

Which is why you are working so tirelessly to demoralize the troops, spread dessention and surpress the vote.

[samm1148]

Oops here we go again with the 'well if you don't vote for Bush evil democrat ______ will get in'. At least with a democrat in the white house this runaway spending might've been opposed. Judicial appointments would've been held up albeit from the conservative side.

Bush again? Campaign finance reform, support of the assault weapons ban, prescription drug forced charities, the education bill with Uncle Ted Kennedy, and finally where is that damn uranium at? No thanks to a second Bush term, I'll cast a principled vote for a third party candidate.

[Dane]

I'd like you to seriously address that issue. If the conservative base was unsatisfied with the Republican Party in '92, thus bringing us Clinton, what do you plan on doing to keep people from being unsatisfied with the Republican Party in '04. Sounds like your plan is to do nothing, in which case I blame guys like you for throwing the election. Republican goose-steppers are responsible for holding their party to account. What are you seriously going to do to keep the limited government types happy?

I have seriously addressed it many times, but I have come up to the conclusion that all that matters to you is being unhappy.

Look it's your right to believe that you live in a perfect world and voting for the 1% candidate will make a difference, but Perot got 19% and it didn't make a difference.

As I have stated before Bush is not perfect and no candidate will ever will be, but he is a whole lot better than the alternative, Kerry/Dean/Gephardt/Edwards/Lieberman etc. etc.

[ApesForEvolution]

What? Oh, it's just you...

[dfrussell]

I not only voted for him, but I donated money.

And it is increasingly likely that I will vote 3rd party in 2004.

[CWOJackson]

Yes todd, it's me.