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To: em2vn
Still no response? Still fact-checking?

Well, here: check this out. In 1974, the height of what could be called the "anti-McCarthyism era" (Nixon headed for impeachment as payback for his role in HUAC; Alger Hiss being readmitted to the Mass. Bar and otherwise rehabilitated; South Vietnam being abandoned to communist enslavement by our "non-treasonous" fellow Americans, the Democrats; and when the general "tone" of Washington Republicans was a sort of high-pitched, "bipartisan" mousy squeak), Kennedy courtier William Manchester published a history of the US from 1932 (FDR's election) to 1972 (Nixon's re-election) with the grandiose title "The Glory and the Dream" (and if you think Manchester is conservative, then your real name is Eric Alterman). He addresses specific charges made against George C. Marshall by Congressmen other than McCarthy, before McCarthy's famous Wheeling WVA speech.

Here's an excerpt from p. 491:

On February 21 [1948] Congressman John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts said that at Yalta a "sick" Roosevelt, on the advice of General Marshall and other chiefs of staff, "gave" the Kuriles and other strategic places to the USSR. The Administration [through George C. Marshall!] had tried to force Chiang into a coalition with Mao, he said. President Truman had treated Madame Chiang [on a futile visit she made to America to plead for more aid for the Nationalists in fighting the Communists] with "indifference," if not "contempt." The State Department had squandered America's wartime gains by listening to such advisers as Owen Lattimore of John Hopkins University. "This," Kennedy concluded, "is the tragic story of China, whose freedom we once fought to preserve. What our young men saved, our diplomats and our President have frittered away."

Geesh, I don't like that guy's TONE, do you? Oh, wait a minute---he's a Democrat...never mind...

Or how about this one further down the page on the subject of Gen. George C. Marshall:

[Senator] Jenner [of Indiana] called General Marshall "a front man for traitors," a "living lie" who had joined hands "with this criminal crowd of traitors and Communist appeasers who, under the continuing influence of Mr. Truman and Mr. Acheson, are still selling America down the river."

Somebody better tell that man to stop his "McCarthyite tactics," before he harms the cause of finding Communists in government!!! Didn't he know that Truman was a stalwart anti-communist?

Even liberals like Manchester could tell the truth back in 1974, the height of Watergate---why can't some putative "conservative Republicans" do so NOW?

92 posted on 07/14/2003 4:33:08 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I love the Vixen of Vitriol---Ann Coulter")
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To: Map Kernow
"(Nixon headed for impeachment as payback for his role in HUAC"
President Nixon wasn't facing impeachment because of his role in HUAC. He was facing impeachment because of Watergate. I wish it hadn't happened but he was wrong in what he did in that mess.
Do you imagine that if General Marshall had been a communist he would have failed to pushed for greater freedom for Soviet forces in Europe and greater restrictions on allied forces there during WWII and immediately afterwards?
Kennedy's speech should not surprise one. Marshall as a life long Republican was viewed as an isolationist in contrast to the internationalist views of the Democrat party established under Roosevelt.

[Senator] Jenner [of Indiana] called General Marshall "a front man for traitors," a "living lie" who had joined hands "with this criminal crowd of traitors and Communist appeasers who, under the continuing influence of Mr. Truman and Mr. Acheson, are still selling America down the river."
A charge such as this is easily made but from history we can see that there isn't one bit of evidence to support such a claim. It is the blind panderings of a politician seeking to carve out a base of support from thin air.
The very real threat of communism was fertile ground for politicians such as Senator Jenner to exploit.
It's instructive to remember that we had just finished WWII. Our nation and the world were still struggling to return to a world of peace. Fear was very much in the air. The memory of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was vivid in the minds of Americans. Conspiracy real and imagined was daily fare. Feeding upon this fear was the stock in trade of Senator McCarthy and those of his stripe.
If General Marshall had been a communist he would have driven the Marshall Plan to failure and the nations of Western Europe into the Soviet camp.
Included among those trading on fear would have been Senator Kennedy, a man with presidential aspirations. For him to make the statements he did would only feed his name to a hungry public and add greater impetus in his drive for the White House.

"In 1974, the height of what could be called the "anti-McCarthyism era"
I can't imagine how this statement was ever constructed. By 1974 Senator McCarthy was ancient political history.He was as forgotten as Gary Condut is today.
If you want to examine the claims of American losing China you must research Henry Luce and his publishing empire. It was Luce, the son of missionaries in China, who first espoused the notion of America's loss of China. He rode the idea to tremendous magazine circulation.
I think Marshall and Truman both gave great credence to General MacArthur's admonition," never fight a war on mainland asia."
I simply don't agree with Anne Coulter's take on Joe McCarthy. I find her attempted defense of him to be ill-advised and factually unsupportable.


95 posted on 07/14/2003 7:10:12 PM PDT by em2vn (In 1974, the height of what could be called the "anti-McCarthyism era")
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