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To: SC Swamp Fox
I read every above post.

I am a small time manufacturer, I am disgusted at being forced to buy Chinese for my first machine tools due to the few U.S. made tools price being so high.

I need more tooling to be competitive in my market, but cannot abide buying more inferior Chinese junk, then having to work around their poor quality. On the other hand, the U.S. stuff is just beyond my reach.

All praise Union Labor! (Yea, that's sarcasm!)
49 posted on 07/13/2003 8:45:30 PM PDT by Richard-SIA (II 'm not the only one?Some survived)
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To: Richard-SIA
"I am a small time manufacturer, I am disgusted at being forced to buy Chinese for my first machine tools due to the few U.S. made tools price being so high. "

Especially when you have sell your products at such a low price to compete with the Chinese. It is a vicous cycle don't you think? And what makes it so hard to compete with the Chinese? That is a complex question with many correct answers. But the ultimate price of competing with the Chinesse is the lowering of our own quality of life. Sure we can buy cheaper, but what wealth will we have when the jobs are gone or we are forced to work for current Chinese wages. And after we have been gutted don't you think will raise there prices?

51 posted on 07/13/2003 9:12:55 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Richard-SIA
We are a non-union shop in a right-to-work state. The people that build our machines are highly skilled and well paid (compared to other local companies).

None of them are getting a COL wage increase this year, the employee's share of benefits is higher, we have laid off over half of them in the last two years.

Oh and did I mention that in order to sell into China, your product must be CCC certified. To obtain certification you have to:
- Provide the Chinese with all technical drawings and manuals for your product.
- Provide them with a sample of your product for testing.
- Pay for their inspection delegation to visit your facility so they may inspect your manufacturing processes and quality control measures.
- Recertify every 18 months.

62 posted on 07/14/2003 5:17:23 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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