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Accused Murderer Scott Woodring Is Dead
WZZM 13 ^ | 7/13/2003 | Sheri Diorio

Posted on 07/13/2003 2:01:40 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR

Accused Murderer Scott Woodring Is Dead
By Sheri Diorio
Posted: 7/13/2003

Michigan State Police say Scott Woodring is dead. Woodring is accused in the shooting death of Michigan State Trooper Kevin Marshall.

Police say Woodring was found early Sunday morning in a car at Maple Island Road and 60th Street in Dayton Township on the Newaygo County line. Police say Woodring got out of the car when police approached and pointed an assault rifle at police. That's when police shot and killed Woodring.

The standoff between police and Woodring began last Sunday. That's when police tried to serve Woodring a warrant at his Dayton Township home on charges of accosting children for immoral purposes. During the standoff on Monday, police say Woodring shot and killed Trooper Marshall. On Tuesday after a police fired a percussion round, Woodring's home burned to the ground.

Stay tuned to WZZM 13 for continuing coverage of the Woodring case.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; chaplin; copkillerisdead; execution; jbts; militia; rkba; scottwoodring
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To: dighton
Simply amazing. I've looked through two of the threads now...some of the same people making the same excuses then and now.
201 posted on 07/13/2003 9:47:29 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: dighton
Simply amazing. I've looked through two of the threads now...some of the same people making the same excuses then and now.
202 posted on 07/13/2003 9:47:31 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: dighton
Simply amazing. I've looked through two of the threads now...some of the same people making the same excuses then and now.
203 posted on 07/13/2003 9:47:31 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Joe Hadenuf
there are dangers in that too

The dangers in responsible civilian oversight and control of law enforcement are miniscule compared to the dangers in handing whatever oversight exists over to LE.

204 posted on 07/13/2003 9:48:07 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Cultural Jihad
Law enforcement of the future won't have to guess where the Scott Woodbrain of the future is lurking, or wonder if he has any enabled ammo.

And this is a GOOD thing?!?!?

205 posted on 07/13/2003 9:49:03 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: CWOJackson
Simply amazing. I've looked through two of the threads now...some of the same people making the same excuses then and now.

And some of the same people are posting all of their comments thrice apiece.

Just kidding, FR was flaking on me for a while too. :-)

206 posted on 07/13/2003 9:50:34 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: dighton
An amazing read...thanks again. Some of the same people making the same excuses for a cop killer. Should I be surprised?
207 posted on 07/13/2003 9:51:07 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
dighton has graciously provided you a good reference point on Matsuidon

Is there any explanation for the spelling change?

208 posted on 07/13/2003 9:51:26 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: jmc813
hiccups...
209 posted on 07/13/2003 9:53:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CurlyDave
Not really.
210 posted on 07/13/2003 9:53:55 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CurlyDave
I think the key word would be *responsible* oversight. No comment on the video taping when serving arrest warrants of potentially dangerous suspects, as in this case?
211 posted on 07/13/2003 9:58:54 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Are these people for real?)
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To: jmc813; Kevin Curry

Who says I am against it? I am just saying it will fail if it is composed of humanist anarcho-ideologues rather than moral and religious conservatives.

Be advised that the latter are not too enamored with the whole idea of picking up and moving someplace for the sole vicarious thrill of being tolerant of evils which the ideologues claim none of their ranks are involved in anyway.

212 posted on 07/13/2003 10:03:07 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
to jmc813; Kevin Curry

Kevin doesn't mind you pinging him even after you called him a terrorist who wants to destroy the nation? ;-)

213 posted on 07/13/2003 10:09:15 PM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
Give it a rest. Cultural Jihad is rational and doesn't offend me in the least. I fully agree with CJ that only libertarian and liberal froot loops live in mortal terror of the USA PATRIOT Act. My concern with the act is that, in my opinion, it creates needless and costly redundancy--not that it is a freedom-bleeding, liberty-eviscerating machine.
214 posted on 07/13/2003 10:31:34 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: CWOJackson
Well, it is an interesting story, but how is it relevant to the case we are discussing, other than that an eccentric fellow was gunned down by police, who were then the only ones left alive to tell the story?

OTOH, the story is certainly interesting. The supposed perp had a "CZ-762x25" which is described as both "large" and "high powered". I have seen the 9 mm CZs and they are by no means large. This appears to be a 7.62 mm version, which would make it a .30 caliber semi-auto and probably a bit smaller, althought I hear that it is fairly powerful.

Stark County Coroner James Pritchard said Taylor, who was wearing a protective vest as is required by the Massillon Police Department, was struck in the buttocks by a bullet that traveled up through his body, damaging vital organs.

Have you or anyone else devoted even a few seconds thought to how this might have happened? For the bullet to hit the officer in the butt, travel upwards and hit vital organs I can envision only two scenarios.

A. The officer was straddling the perp, standing over him like he had captured a trophy, but had somehow failed to disarm him, or

B. The officer was lying on the ground facing directly away from the perp. Although this is possible, there is but scant logic which would explain how he came to be in this position, crawling away from his target.

Of course there is always another explanation. What about the possibility that he was in a prone position, facing the "perp", but was shot in the buttocks by another officer firing from behind him?

The CZ is an inexpensive, but very reliable pistol. Ever heard of a cop carrying a "throw down"? Oh wait, that never happens in your world. On the other hand, maybe it was a "back-up", which just happened to also be very inexpensive.

Sure, this could have happened just the way the newspaper says, but somehow that doesn't pass the smell test.

Just suppose that this was a case of "friendly fire" and the boys got together afterwards and decided that it might be better for all concerned if the dead officer was remembered as a "fallen hero", instead of someone who was shot in the butt by a fellow officer firing an unauthorized weapon. The "perp" is dead so he won't care.

Not only that, but this way the fellow officer doesn't have all that pesky paperwork to fill out.

Do you have a link to the someplace where we get an official explanation for how officer Taylor came to be shot in the buttocks while facing away from the man he was chasing? Where is this procedure described in the training manual?

It is certainly a tragedy, and I have great sympathy for Officer Taylor. But, I have a hard time believing the storyof the shootout is the complete truth.

215 posted on 07/13/2003 10:37:24 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave
"Well, it is an interesting story, but how is it relevant to the case we are discussing, other than that an eccentric fellow was gunned down by police..."

Yes, a murdering freak is just an eccentric fellow to you. Well that explains everything.

216 posted on 07/13/2003 10:40:59 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CurlyDave
And save your sympathy for Officer Tyler, I seriously doubt his family or comrades would take kindly to it...extend your sympathy to the family of the murdering freak.
217 posted on 07/13/2003 10:42:34 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Joe Hadenuf
No comment on the video taping when serving arrest warrants of potentially dangerous suspects, as in this case?

Being the cynical old man that I am, I suspect that any video camera would either be turned off, covered by someone's shirt, or pointing in completely the wrong direction whenever anything "interesting" happened.

I know there have been a few cases of cops tripped up by video in their squad cars during traffic stops, but if they are going into a more serious situation, I bet a week's salary that somehow that camera is malfunctioning just at the very moment when it would shed some light on a problem. And then it would get fixed as soon afterward as the problem was noted and the action was over.

218 posted on 07/13/2003 10:44:42 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Roscoe
In the words of CurlyDave, Matsuidonan was simply an "eccentric fellow was gunned down by police".
219 posted on 07/13/2003 10:46:41 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CurlyDave
"the citizenry should have much more control over LE than they do now."

Any more "control" of this sort will lead to the complete breakdown of law enforcement in urban areas. Morever this statement leads me to believe that you have little or no understanding of the situation in such areas whatsoever.

When civilian complaint boards made up of liberal defense lawyers and black panther sympathizers can discipline cops through suspension, loss of vacation time or indictment you can kiss urban America goodbye. When a cop's word is judged equally with that of an ex-con or a ex-con's family member the vet cop's mantra to the rookie will be what I hear increasingly:

"Be safe, do nothing"- ie "Don't arrest anyone unless the kill someone in front of you on videotape."

220 posted on 07/13/2003 10:47:53 PM PDT by newwahoo
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