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Crisis continues: US may abolish H1-B visa
Economic Times of India ^ | July 13, 2003 | CHIDANAND RAJGHATTA

Posted on 07/13/2003 8:47:36 AM PDT by sarcasm

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To: harpseal
Becuase it is only immigration and it would get too many fish in the net.

Heh, just see my tagline below, I know to us, Martha Stewart would be a "big bug" but compared to a lot of multi-national companies who would outsource, she would be a "little bug." I know that's from the game, "Road Rash Jailbreak" on the Sony Playstation, but I'm afraid that is very true.
61 posted on 07/14/2003 1:09:51 PM PDT by Nowhere Man ("Laws are the spider webs through which the big bugs fly past and the little ones get caught.")
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To: Euro-American Scum
So they abolish the H-1B.

Hey, it's a start. Sure beats the complete denial dance Washington usually does about immigration/outsourcing.

62 posted on 07/14/2003 1:11:39 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: w1andsodidwe
We must only allow Immigration by those who cannot support themselves and will therefore vote for the democRAT party.

No, no, no, you misunderstand. This is the age of diversity - I oppose Mexican AND Indian immigration, but for different reasons.
1. Mexicans - just the sheer numbers. It's almost like an invasion.
2. Indians - H1-B/L1's take middle-class American jobs.

Immigration from the third-world (say, India) shouldn't be a "right".

63 posted on 07/14/2003 1:19:47 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: Valin
What's so great about America By Dinesh D'Souza...(long boring pro-immigration article by an Indian)...The End

Yea, America is (was?) a great place. All the more reason to limit immigration from the third-world.

64 posted on 07/14/2003 1:33:54 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: Nowhere Man
The moral is never stealk anything small steal at least a billion dollars and no one messes with you anything less and they will come after you. Even Pablo Escobar was not at the Apex of the drug cartels he was small enough to be sacrificed.
65 posted on 07/14/2003 2:02:23 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: sarcasm
Dang, I lost my job June 1st to India and everyday I read about the offshoring situation. In the last month, I've applied to SO MANY companies and NOT ONE response. I was hoping that my stellar career at ARCO would at LEAST get me an interview...

For the first time in my life I'm on unemployement and I just read an article that CA's unemployement fund will be depleted by the first of the year..Talk about TIMING! Maybe when the CA companies have to bail out the fund (if they will) they will think twice about sending those jobs to India...doubt it. I have a meeting with the EDD this week so they can review with me opportunies in my chosen field... can't wait to hear what they tell me.

Thanks for listening.
66 posted on 07/14/2003 2:46:08 PM PDT by MelBelle
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To: SauronOfMordor
I have no objections to Indian professionals coming over AS PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS seeking to resettle here in the US with their families.

Our H1Bs who went on to citizenship were Russian and Chinese, all highly skilled and educated. At no time during their H1B status were they ever made to work in "indentured servitude" as you suggest. They were treated and paid like everyone else.
67 posted on 07/14/2003 3:17:05 PM PDT by pt17
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To: MelBelle
Dang, I lost my job June 1st to India...

Sorry to hear about this. What kind of job are you looking for?

68 posted on 07/14/2003 3:40:13 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: crazykatz
You know before you go off on a testosterone induced rant you just might want to look at the person you're railing against.
Here' I'll help you out
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22+Dinesh+D%27Souza+%22&ie=ISO-8859-1&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&cat=gwd%2FTop

I'm glad to see you're not letting your education get in the way of your ignorance.
69 posted on 07/14/2003 9:25:22 PM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: MelBelle
In the last month, I've applied to SO MANY companies and NOT ONE response.

They're not hiring Americans this year. . . or any other year, come to think of it.

70 posted on 07/14/2003 10:27:29 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (Conservative babes with guns are so hot)
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To: crazykatz
You're so right, not one Indian helping our troops. They are just helping themselves to American jobs, even replacing our own Veterans.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/stories/2003071505870100.htm
NEW DELHI July 14. India today formally decided not to send its troops to Iraq under the American and British command. As expected, the Cabinet Committee on Security considered the issue and politely declined the request of the United States.
71 posted on 07/14/2003 10:45:59 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
We even have traitors posting on FR.... "free traitors". I think Bush is toast in the next election if he does NOT personally address this issue. You know that the demo-rats will just pander and do nothing to stop H1B or L1... but they will make Bush look like the villian. Mark my words.
72 posted on 07/15/2003 9:59:23 AM PDT by crazykatz
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To: crazykatz
"I think Bush is toast in the next election if he does NOT personally address this issue."

It is starting to look like a replay of Bush1, right down to one term.
Remember how high Sr. Bush's approval ratings were after the Persian Gulf War?
Later, the cynical said that he should have timed the war closer to his re-election campaign.
And, again unemployment was high but Bush1 just ignored it.
I shudder to think of another Clinton (or any other Democrat) in the White House. Let's hope and pray that doesn't happen (no matter how bad the economy gets).
73 posted on 07/15/2003 10:13:42 AM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
Scarry times ahead.... eeckkkkkkkkkkkk.
74 posted on 07/15/2003 10:23:20 AM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Zippo44
but it's a good thing I don't have my finger on a button controlling a missile targeted on Paris or Montreal

There's other ways of making sure that you can come back as a highly paid consultant to the company that laid you off so they can save a buck. Course doing so would be highly unethical, but its not like they've been so with you, right?
75 posted on 07/16/2003 3:57:24 PM PDT by lelio
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To: crazykatz; MinuteGal
No disagreement with everything you've said, and I've been laid off too - my Christmas present from the company I worked for, just 2 months after I'd gotten married, was a pink slip. I was months looking for a new gig.

The point I was trying to make in my last paragraph: what is needed is a sensible immigration policy. If foreigners begin to displace those of us already here, then that's a red flag and visas for people in those fields should be severely curtailed.

My other point: the Cold War got us the wrong partner in the subcontinent - we should be seeking closer ties to India. It'll take time; there is a half-century of anti-American tilt to overcome, thanks to our supporting the Paks. But when China really starts flexing her muscles, later this century, it'd be helpful to have as an ally the only country with more people.

76 posted on 07/20/2003 12:47:01 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: crazykatz; MinuteGal
No disagreement with everything you've said, and I've been laid off too - my Christmas present from the company I worked for, just 2 months after I'd gotten married, was a pink slip. I was months looking for a new gig.

The point I was trying to make in my last paragraph: what is needed is a sensible immigration policy. If foreigners begin to displace those of us already here, then that's a red flag and visas for people in those fields should be severely curtailed.

My other point: the Cold War got us the wrong partner in the subcontinent - we should be seeking closer ties to India. It'll take time; there is a half-century of anti-American tilt to overcome, thanks to our supporting the Paks. But when China really starts flexing her muscles, later this century, it'd be helpful to have as an ally the only country with more people.

77 posted on 07/20/2003 12:58:29 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: sarcasm
In years gone by when a company needed skilled workers of any sort, they trained them. They didn't import them. Now that we have massive numbers of unemployed skilled high tech workers playin' golf everyday, it's time for some east indian pick slips.

Kemosabee!! (oops, wrong indians)

<|:-)~~
78 posted on 07/20/2003 1:12:04 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA - Bring 'em home, or send us back! Semper Fi)
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