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Posted on 07/12/2003 12:52:33 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
What would you consider an appropriate way to frame the questions? Or should I simply not ask them at all?
To: Sparta
You made the accusation. You have to prove it.
Prove it? That is what you are saying to quite a few posters on this pathetic thread. Are you Cathryn Crawford's Renfield?
To: Dan from Michigan
Dan--
I don't have one problem with her posting her columns on here and I don't read them because I am a conservative but also a Bush supporter and the article I posted was taking potshots at people I have respected for a long time including SecDef Rumsfeld.
This is a vanity that discusess Tenet "Fiasco" when there is no fiasco and goes on to say the "press smells blood" which gives the inference she is not a member of the press.
I don't read anything from the Washington Dispatch and had no idea she was a journalist until someone gave me a heads-up that didn't want to post it.
When you write a vanity of this nature and ask leading questions, you should disclose you are a member of the press for those of us who don't know. If she had done that at the beginning, I would never have posted on here!
See the difference!
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:27:16 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
To: Peach
I didn't know she was press either and it should have been disclosed up front.You just demostrated your lack of intelligence.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:27:33 PM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(My other tagline is a Porsche)
To: Nick Danger
Anyone who has ever seen even a medium-sized bureaucracy in action has no trouble envisioning how this kind of stuff could happen. It happens every day, everywhere. It's time to get the damned thing out the door... if I change this will you say yes? Bam, out it goes. I can envision exactly how it happened.
At the very least, Tenet should be fired, or forced to resign. Wouldn't you agree?
To: Lauratealeaf; Cathryn Crawford
Prove it? That is what you are saying to quite a few posters on this pathetic thread. Are you Cathryn Crawford's Renfield?
1) She's a friend of mine and many on this thread are lying about her. I defend my friends.
2) If this thread is so pathetic, why are you responding to it?
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:30:09 PM PDT
by
Sparta
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To: Sir Gawain
If I started a vanity saying that Wall Street is noticing a turnaround in a certain tech stock sector and asked Freepers for input into what kinds of software/hardware they were buying, but did NOT disclose I worked as a portfolio manager, would you have a problem with that?
There are ethics rules which govern journalists and it's likely one of those rules would include disclosure of one's profession.
If you think I demonstrated my lack of intelligence because I didn't click on the poster's name to see what her profession is, okay. That's not is generally meant by disclosure, but okay. I'm dumb.
BTW, I'd love to be your portfolio manager.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:32:22 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: Sparta
The article in post 116 is taken out of context. Miss Crawford supported the war with Iraq. I don't know for a fact on what she supported or not .. but that post was her article, so how was it taken out of context?
IMO of reading it .. she wasn't a supporter .. but that's just my opinion
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07/12/2003 2:32:28 PM PDT
by
Mo1
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To: lentulusgracchus
"The buck stops here", but Tenet is the one putting his hand up. It was Cheney who pursued the uranium-sale angle and bought the story nevertheless when his investigator had warned him off and the people at CIA and State didn't want to sign off on it. I've read something in this regard, to the effect that it was actually Cheney who ordered the CIA to investigate, and then the CIA sent Wilson. Is that what you're referring to?
To: Scenic Sounds; Cathryn Crawford
However, when all is said and done, if the White House handles the issue properly, most folks will understand that it is, as you say, "just as simple as it looks on its face.Well, I certainly hope so, SS. To be honest, I think most people would have had that simple impression if the media wasn't working overtime to make them think otherwise.
I listened to Michael Medved (a brilliant conservative radio talk show host) the other day, and he put this issue in context by playing clips of that entire section of the speech. There was no lie or even inaccurate information (check the wording of the sentence if you doubt me) in the SOTU address, but people have that impression now, thanks to the media.
As we are all aware, journalists can be breathtakingly irresponsible, and unfortunately they have more power than they probably should.
To: Sparta
2) If this thread is so pathetic, why are you responding to it?
Sometimes we have to do hard things for good reasons. Like cleaning toilets to prevent germs.
To: Consort
The Clintons seeded the CIA, State Department, and every other government agency with Leftist/Socialist career civil servants, appointees, Senior Executive Service, etc. It will take at least a generation to clean it outThe Fedayeen Clinton are more aggressive and tenacious than the Fedayeen Saddam.
To: Sir Gawain
Sorry to disappoint you.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:34:25 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: Dog
And I'm dumb because I thought she should have disclosed she was a journalist as well. See #207 - not that he'll respond to it.
Of course, anyone who mentions ethics and journalists in the same sentence (like me) should probably be banned for terminal stupidity!
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:36:17 PM PDT
by
Peach
To: Peach; Cathryn Crawford
Thank you.
I want to say I think Cathryn Crawford is a good and thoughtful person, a good writer, and that she has a bright future ahead - I just take issue with some of her opinions, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't mind that.
To: Peach
but did NOT disclose I worked as a portfolio manager, would you have a problem with that?First, you make it sound as if this is her profession. She submits editorials. Any joe-schmo can submit editorials. That doesn't make them a journalist. Second, it's plainly stated on her profile page. The fact wasn't hidden. It's no one's fault but your own if you don't look at the information that's one click away.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:37:12 PM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(My other tagline is a Porsche)
To: Sparta; Sabertooth; Fred Mertz; nunya bidness
The new target must be Cathryn since TLBSHOW is gone.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:37:22 PM PDT
by
Sir Gawain
(My other tagline is a Porsche)
To: Peach
Yes I have. Tenet(Klintonite) admitted something else.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:37:28 PM PDT
by
Dan from Michigan
("Crashed and Burned, eh gungrabbers?")
To: PhiKapMom
Main Entry: au·dac·i·ty
Pronunciation: o-'da-s&-tE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -ties Etymology: Middle English audacite, from Latin audac-, audax Date: 15th century 1 : the quality or state of being audacious : as a : intrepid boldness b : bold or arrogant disregard of normal restraints 2 : an audacious act -- usually used in plural
Taking something out of context doesn't help your arguement.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:37:39 PM PDT
by
Sparta
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Explain how the following is plagerizing you! I would be interested to know and so would my daughter who is a Journalism major who is reading this thread and appalled by the way at your lack of disclosure!
I don't see that happening. The media smells blood.
YOU ARE PART OF THE MEDIA! DO YOU SMELL BLOOD?
That is from my post to you. Now explain how that is plagerizing when you posted that on an open forum. Nice of you to claim plagerism for using your words in quotes to ask you a question on this vanity thread when you didn't bother to disclose you were a journalist.
BTW, I don't like or dislike you, but when a Journalist does a vanity thread and doesn't disclose they are a journalist, I don't appreciate it.
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posted on
07/12/2003 2:38:13 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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