To: rmlew
In the meantime, upgrade the OH Perry's so that can handle teh SM-2 missle instead of the obsolete SM1R. I was given to understand that such a proposal was technologically less than feasible with the existant MK.13 Launchers- the FFG-7's would have to be converted with VLS- of which they could only carry the short cells in a total of something like 32. How does the Soveremennyy compare poorly with an Adams? It's sam's have the same range (assuming that the Gadflies are not replaced with Grizzlies). However, it still has a better anti-missle defense with its AK-630s. They carry the Moskit missle, which has a loinger range than the Harpoon IC and is a supersonic sea-skimmer designed to defeat the Aegis/Sm-2 systems. Frankly, on paper the Soveremenny compares well with the Kidds. I agree with you about the Soveremenny's- but I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about the Luhu's and the like, which are substantially less advanced. China, bear in mind, only has two Soveremenny's with two more on order. You forgot about the diesel-electric subs, which are quiet when running on batteries. You are correct that we could defeat China ono-on-one. However, China would only act when we are over extended, like today. Well, the handful of Kilo-class subs might pose some threat. The mass of Romeo-type boats (the vast bulk of the Chinese fleet) are totally useless. It's also, I think, important to note that the US could probably expect the help of the Taiwanese Armed Forces and, possibly, those of Japan as well against China.
To: adamyoshida
was given to understand that such a proposal was technologically less than feasible with the existant MK.13 Launchers- the FFG-7's would have to be converted with VLS- of which they could only carry the short cells in a total of something like 32. 28 SM-2's that can take out missles and have a range of 35nm are better than 36 SM-1s that cannot hit sea-skimmers and have a range of 20nm.
I agree with you about the Soveremenny's- but I wasn't talking about them, I was talking about the Luhu's and the like, which are substantially less advanced. China, bear in mind, only has two Soveremenny's with two more on order.
The Luhu's and Luda's are obsolete. However, the new type 52 destroyers are not.
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/052c.asp
http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/052b.asp
Comming less than 5 years after the Luhu, these are a generation ahead and are closing in on us if they are carrying the S-300.
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07/13/2003 4:28:10 PM PDT by
rmlew
("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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